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The Cops Were the Aggressors in This Week's Deadly Houston Drug Raid
Reason ^ | 1-29-19 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 01/31/2019 8:38:46 AM PST by slumber1

On Monday evening in Houston, a dozen armed men broke into the home of Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, a middle-aged couple who had lived in the house at 7815 Harding Street for at least two decades. The first man through the door, who was armed with a shotgun, used it to kill one of the couple's dogs. Tuttle responded to the home invasion by grabbing a revolver and shooting the man with the shotgun, who collapsed on a sofa in the living room. As Nicholas tried to disarm the intruder, his accomplices shot her. Tuttle returned fire, and by the end of the shootout he and his wife were both dead. Four of the assailants were hit by gunfire, while a fifth injured his knee.

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To: Kazan

Which number are you on the witness list?


321 posted on 08/23/2019 9:42:09 PM PDT by sport
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To: Kazan
So, you're guaranteeing a conviction before the trial has taken place?

Mis-stating someone elses comment so you can refute what they didn't say is lame. And you calling anyone else stupid is hilarious.

322 posted on 08/23/2019 9:44:43 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
OJ Simpson was acquitted - do you think he was innocent?
323 posted on 08/24/2019 11:10:27 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: kiryandil

It aged as expected. It was obvious from the start. In this case the elite blue line couldn’t cover for this level of corruption. What is so sad there is one here on FR that still has judged and agreed with the execution of two people. The poor family were murdered, framed, ...


324 posted on 08/24/2019 12:37:55 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: NobleFree
Simpson was left off by racist jury and found guilty in a civil suit.

I can point to the evidence he was guilty. There has been NO evidence made public that officer in question is guilty. For him to found guilty would require the testimony of all of the other officers. But, none of them have said so publicly.

I really couldn't give a damn if the officer is convicted or not. Nor do a care that the two losers that resisted arrest are dead, either.

325 posted on 08/24/2019 12:51:36 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi
Yes, you're a moron if you think the couple didn't get exactly what they deserved.

I have feeling you'd die the same way if the police kicked down your door. You'd resist arrest and end up dead rather than surrender and live to clear your name.

You're not very bright.

326 posted on 08/24/2019 12:56:32 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: sport
Which number are you on the witness list?

Which one are you. You're the one claiming the officer committed murder when you weren't there.

I'm the one that wants to hear all the evidence before I make a determination as to his guilt.

327 posted on 08/24/2019 12:58:07 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi
Tuttle never fired a shot a police officers? They shot each other?
328 posted on 08/24/2019 12:59:39 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
This is the last time I will respond to you regarding this.

Because judging by your response, I question both your reading comprehension and your mental state. You have in numerous posts to different posters made statements that would give a reasonable person the implication that you were an eye witness. Other that state that I believed that they planted evidence, I made no statement that suggested their guilt or not guilt. Last but not least, none of the posts made by you that I read did you implicate that you were a neutral observer, merely interested in ascertaining the facts. It is the Office of the District Attorney that you should direct your comments. They probably would be interested in them.

Respond when you are lucid, perhaps we can discuss it.

329 posted on 08/24/2019 1:18:29 PM PDT by sport
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To: wgmalabama
It aged as expected. It was obvious from the start. In this case the elite blue line couldn’t cover for this level of corruption. What is so sad there is one here on FR that still has judged and agreed with the execution of two people. The poor family were murdered, framed, ...

And downthread, the jackboot licker is still slavering over his taste of vintage boot leather...

330 posted on 08/24/2019 1:52:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Kazan
Yes, you're a moron if you think the couple didn't get exactly what they deserved.

Really? They deserved to be murdered in their own home?

But I thought you were big on evidence of wrong doing. There is none against them. You said people need to be charged and convicted before anyone can say they're guilty. Oh, or do you mean just dirty cops?

You're not very bright

LOL! You're the one that can't make a coherent argument. Slinging invectives seems to be your way of saying "I can't refute your argument". That sounds like something stupid people would do.

331 posted on 08/24/2019 2:15:02 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
I'm the one that wants to hear all the evidence before I make a determination as to his guilt

Well, except for the murded couple.

332 posted on 08/24/2019 2:16:32 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
Tuttle never fired a shot a police officers? They shot each other?

Yes. Maybe you are capable of learning.

333 posted on 08/24/2019 2:17:45 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecan_Park_raid

The policemen suffered a total of four bullet wounds from a man who was armed with a six-shot revolver

334 posted on 08/24/2019 2:35:57 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi
Well, except for the murded couple.

Proof you're reactionary idiot. No one has been convicted. No testimony has been given.

335 posted on 08/24/2019 2:39:42 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi
Well, except for the murded couple.

Proof you're reactionary idiot. No one has been convicted. No testimony has been given before a jury.

336 posted on 08/24/2019 2:39:54 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi
They deserved to be murdered in their own home?

Absolutely, they deserved to die. They decided to unleash a pit bull and decided to shoot it out with police. That will result in one dying every time.

That probably be your fate when the police come after hearing about your stash. I have no doubt you'd decide to go out in blaze of glory.

337 posted on 08/24/2019 2:42:47 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: sport
Other that state that I believed that they planted evidence

There was no evidence of heroin and claim was that they were heroin. The police screwed that part up, lied about having an informant and two were forced to retire. There was no cover up.

That is utterly irrelevant because the two losers decided to get into a shootout with police. They were too stupid not to resist arrest, live and clear their names.

338 posted on 08/24/2019 2:45:51 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Thank you for your clear, rational, and courteous response. From what I read, the police never claimed to have recovered heroin from the residence. They did claim to have recovered a small amount of marijuana [though they did not specify the amount a white powder, again, no description of said powder. I believe that allegations were made that a c.i. purchased heroin “in the vicinity” of the residence. I could be wrong on that because I am going from memory. But again, it could not be documented or independently substantiated. When I was affiliated with Law Enforcement in Florida, buys by under-covers were closely monitored and documented and buys by c.is. were even more closely monitored and documented.

It was when the officer's superiors began deconstructing their reports and after action reports that their case began falling apart.As far as who did what, the legal system can and will determine that. When it wishes, the System can be very efficient.

339 posted on 08/24/2019 3:21:25 PM PDT by sport
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To: Kazan

LOL! Wiki?

No firearms were among the evidence listed by your heroes.

THE COPS ALL LIED.


340 posted on 08/24/2019 4:09:37 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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