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The Cops Were the Aggressors in This Week's Deadly Houston Drug Raid
Reason ^ | 1-29-19 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 01/31/2019 8:38:46 AM PST by slumber1

On Monday evening in Houston, a dozen armed men broke into the home of Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, a middle-aged couple who had lived in the house at 7815 Harding Street for at least two decades. The first man through the door, who was armed with a shotgun, used it to kill one of the couple's dogs. Tuttle responded to the home invasion by grabbing a revolver and shooting the man with the shotgun, who collapsed on a sofa in the living room. As Nicholas tried to disarm the intruder, his accomplices shot her. Tuttle returned fire, and by the end of the shootout he and his wife were both dead. Four of the assailants were hit by gunfire, while a fifth injured his knee.

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To: Kazan

“I doubt.....”

Every single thing you’ve doubted about this incident has been borne out as very likely true. At this point your doubts ain’t worth a beer fart in a whirlwind.

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301 posted on 08/23/2019 7:31:21 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Kazan

“All the witnesses say he’s guilty? How in hell would you know that?”

Maybe because the DA has lain charges based on what they said.

There is that so......

L


302 posted on 08/23/2019 7:32:50 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

Kind of ironic this clown likes to call other people “stupid”.


303 posted on 08/23/2019 7:43:24 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

“Kind of ironic this clown likes to call other people “stupid”.

Think of it as a real world demonstration of the Duning-Kruger Effect.

L


304 posted on 08/23/2019 7:49:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Blue House Sue

Where is their documentation? In real life when the police make a drug buy, they document it.


305 posted on 08/23/2019 7:50:01 PM PDT by sport
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To: Lurker
Maybe because the DA has lain charges based on what they said.

Or, maybe, it's like what happened in Baltimore in the Freddie Gray case where the officers were overcharged by a grandstanding prosecutor.

306 posted on 08/23/2019 7:51:37 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

We will see. But I sure ain’t betting your way.

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307 posted on 08/23/2019 7:53:27 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

Duning-Kruger Effect

Well played, Lurker.


308 posted on 08/23/2019 7:54:34 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Lurker
Every single thing you’ve doubted about this incident has been borne out as very likely true.

So, you're guaranteeing a conviction before the trial has taken place? This despite the fact you've not heard of testimony or evidence.

309 posted on 08/23/2019 7:55:19 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi

;-).

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310 posted on 08/23/2019 7:58:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Kazan
So, you're guaranteeing a conviction before the trial has taken place? This despite the fact you've not heard of testimony or evidence.

Damn, that's lame.

311 posted on 08/23/2019 8:04:33 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
I seen jackboot lickers, but you take the cake. There is a thread today, 8-23-19 where an officer recorded whit his cell phone himself urinating on a young school girl. Will you defend him also.

The bottom line is that the actions of these officers have been investigated and lie after lie was discovered in their statements. Resulting in one being charged with murder and others being charged with various felonies. And last but not least, was one of them your husband or boyfriend?

312 posted on 08/23/2019 8:26:28 PM PDT by sport
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Ex-case agent Gerald Goines on Friday was charged with two counts of felony murder in the Jan. 28 deaths of Dennis uttle and Rhogena Nicholas and is still under investigation over claims he stole guns, drugs and money, Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg announced at a news conference downtown. His partner, Steven Bryant, was charged with one count of evidence tampering, a state jail felony.
313 posted on 08/23/2019 8:41:56 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan

Former HPD officer charged with murder in botched raid at Harding Street house
Houston Chronicle ^ | August 23, 2019 | St. John Barned-Smith and Keri Blakinger
Posted on 8/23/2019, 11:08:13 PM by Forgotten Amendments

...Ogg said that as investigators probed the case, they determined that Goines first lied about using a confidential informant to buy heroin; then claimed to have bought the drugs himself; then lied about who identified the drugs; and finally admitted that he couldn’t determine whether Tuttle was the same person from whom he allegedly purchased the drugs....

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314 posted on 08/23/2019 8:42:58 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
The issue is lying. He lied and was forced to retire.

The issue is whether he committed murder or not.

315 posted on 08/23/2019 9:13:33 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: sport
I seen jackboot lickers

The issue is and was whether a murder occurred. The officer hasn't been convicted and the two losers in question unleashed a pit bull, one shot at police officers and the other of tried to take a shotgun away from an officer.

Several officers defend themselves at the scene and were not charged. because of all that.

DON'T RESIST ARREST. That is the moral of story. If you can't figure that out, you dumber than dog spit.

316 posted on 08/23/2019 9:24:00 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MileHi

Waiting for the evidence to be presented a trial before determining someone is guilty is lame? You’re an idiot. That’s that way our system works and should continue to work.


317 posted on 08/23/2019 9:25:11 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
He lied and was forced to retire.

Nah, he tried to get out while the getting was good. Oops, too late.

Ex-case agent Gerald Goines on Friday was charged with two counts of felony murder in the Jan. 28 deaths of Dennis uttle and Rhogena Nicholas and is still under investigation over claims he stole guns, drugs and money, Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg announced at a news conference downtown.

And still, you defend this scum.

Oh, ya, ya. He isn't convicted yet. You stay with that, ace.

318 posted on 08/23/2019 9:28:09 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Kazan
The officer hasn't been convicted and the two losers in question unleashed a pit bull, one shot at police officers and the other of tried to take a shotgun away from an officer.

Were you there as it was happening?

319 posted on 08/23/2019 9:39:22 PM PDT by sport
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To: Kazan
one shot at police officers

That never happened, why do you keep repeating that, Blockhead?

320 posted on 08/23/2019 9:40:00 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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