Posted on 01/23/2019 11:50:53 AM PST by jstolzen
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that Democrats will not authorize President Donald Trump to give his State of the Union in the House chamber until the partial government shutdown ends.
The California Democrat's letter to Trump escalates a standoff over the annual address hours after the president said he would give the speech in the House chamber next week as planned. Earlier this month, Pelosi urged him to reschedule the speech during a partial government shutdown.
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That's where I've been for weeks. Can you imagine the spectacle of guards trying to keep Trump from accessing the podium to speak. Trump says "what is this, Venezuela?" Trump can use this event to demonstrate once again how extreme the democrats have become.
Authorize? Who cares? Block? Exactly how does she propose to do that?
Amen!
The only problem with that is that he does not get to include and engage the American people who are clamoring to hear him speak. At least, the ones with brains.
On May 25, 1861, federal troops arrested a Maryland planter, John Merryman, on suspicion that he was involved in a conspiracy as part of an armed secessionist group. Merryman was detained at Fort McHenry without a warrant. Merryman’s attorney petitioned the U.S. Circuit Court for Maryland, which Taney oversaw, for his client’s release.
Article 1, Section 9, of the Constitution states that “the Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.” The Great Writ’s origins go back to the signing of the Magna Carta in England in 1215 and the writ compels the government to show cause to a judge for the arrest or detention of a person.
On May 26, Taney issued a writ of habeas corpus and ordered General George Cadwalader, Fort McHenry’s commander, to appear in the circuit courtroom along with Merryman and to explain his reasons for detaining Merryman.
Cadwalader didn’t comply with the writ and instead sent a letter back to Taney on May 27 explaining that Lincoln had authorized military officers to suspend the writ when they felt there were public safety concerns. Taney then tried to notify Cadwalader that he was in contempt of court, but soldiers at Fort McHenry refused the notice.
On May 28, Taney issued an oral opinion, which was followed by a written opinion a few days later. He stated that the Constitution clearly intended for Congress, and not the President, to have to power to suspend the writ during emergencies.
“The clause in the Constitution which authorizes the suspension of the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus is in the ninth section of the first article. This article is devoted to the Legislative Department of the United States, and has not the slightest reference to the Executive Department,” Taney argued. “I can see no ground whatever for supposing that the President in any emergency or in any state of things can authorize the suspension of the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, or arrest a citizen except in aid of the judicial power,” Taney concluded.
Lincoln didn’t respond directly and immediately to the Ex Parte Merryman decision. Instead, he waited until a July 4th address to Congress to confront Taney.
“Soon after the first call for militia it was considered a duty to authorize the Commanding General in proper cases, according to his discretion, to suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, or, in other words, to arrest and detain without resort to the ordinary processes and forms of law such individuals as he might deem dangerous to the public safety,” Lincoln said. “This authority has purposely been exercised but very sparingly.”
Lincoln then presented his famous response to Taney. “Are all the laws but one to go unexecuted, and the Government itself go to pieces lest that one be violated? Even in such a case, would not the official oath be broken if the Government should be overthrown when it was believed that disregarding the single law would tend to preserve it?”
The President also confronted Taney’s opinion that only Congress could suspend the writ.
“Now it is insisted that Congress, and not the Executive, is vested with this power; but the Constitution itself is silent as to which or who is to exercise the power; and as the provision was plainly made for a dangerous emergency, it can not be believed the framers of the instrument intended that in every case the danger should run its course until Congress could be called together, the very assembling of which might be prevented, as was intended in this case, by the rebellion,” Lincoln argued.
If you read Trump's most recent letter, he says he was invited AFTER the start of the shutdown, on January 3, 2019. He accepted that invitation. I recall seeing one of Trump's tweets where he even made mention that there was a contract made (he was referring to the letter of the law contracts - an offer and an acceptance = contract). She has now broken that contract.
The majority of the House of Representatives, which were also voted in by district.
Thanks.
Is there a list of House members, a governor (IIRC), and others who were arrested?
5.56mm
[ Piglosi’s terrified at the thought of Pres Trump’s huge audience hearing him explain why Democrats letting
murderers, rapists, drug dealers and welfare cheats flood into our unprotected country is a bad idea. ]
Yes. Do the State of the Union in a secured arena. The press will have to cover it. If they don’t, it shows who they are.
At least let Fox, OANN and that channel that streams live on YouTube in. Make Pelosi eat this.
The commie media will boycott no matter where he does it..but MILLIONS of people will watch regardless..can do a live internet stream
Nancy Pelosi has let her political party loyalty replace her national loyalty. She is essentially exhibiting actions that unquestionably reveal she is unfit to serve in the House of Representatives, much less lead it.
That's the stupidest idea I've heard all day.
Shepard Smith on Fox just said the president canceled the SOTU. I haven’t see or heard any corroboration of that.
I just called my (unfortunately, Democrat) Congresswoman and asked that she call Pelosi on this to let her know that the American people are not going to stand for any Speaker of any party “blocking” the President from giving a SOTU address.
Burn the damned phone lines down!! This cannot stand.
In early 1862 Lincoln took a step back from the suspension of habeas corpus controversy. On February 14, he ordered all political prisoners released, with some exceptions (such as the aforementioned newspaper editor) and offered them amnesty for past treason or disloyalty, so long as they did not aid the Confederacy. In March 1862 Congressman Henry May, who had been released in December 1861, introduced a bill requiring the federal government to either indict by grand jury or release all other "political prisoners" still held without habeas corpus.[21] May's bill passed the House in summer 1862, and it would later be included in the Habeas Corpus Suspension Act, which would require actual indictments for suspected traitors.[22]
Seven months later, faced with opposition to his calling up of the militia, Lincoln again suspended habeas corpus, this time through the entire country, and made anyone charged with interfering with the draft, discouraging enlistments, or aiding the Confederacy subject to martial law.[23] In the interim, the controversy continued with several calls made for prosecution of those who acted under Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus; former Secretary of War Simon Cameron had even been arrested in connection with a suit for trespass vi et armis, assault and battery, and false imprisonment.[24] Senator Thomas Holliday Hicks, who had been governor of Maryland during the crisis, told the Senate, "I believe that arrests and arrests alone saved the State of Maryland not only from greater degradation than she suffered, but from everlasting destruction." He also said, "I approved them [the arrests] then, and I approve them now; and the only thing for which I condemn the Administration in regard to that matter is that they let some of these men out."[25]
I wish Pelosi’s mom would have been as vehemently pro-abortion as her daughter ended up being.
SOTU ‘speech’ is not mandated. He can send an email saying, “everything is fine other than Nancy Peolsi’s brain” and that would satisfy the requirement. Nowhere does he say it has to be delivered in the HOR either. He can deliver it from JerryWorld and have it televised and satisfy the requirement if he so desires.
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