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No proof exists that he is Native American.
1 posted on 01/22/2019 10:39:28 PM PST by NoLibZone
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Sen. Warren will vouch for him.


2 posted on 01/22/2019 10:42:39 PM PST by jospehm20
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I am not trashing reservists. Chief Lottabull enlisted as a USMCR as the VN War was ending. The Marine Reserves were never mobilized in spite of a full court press by the CMC to do so in 66-67. ‘Would send the wrong signal’ according to Robert Strange. He was big on games theory and ‘strategic signaling’. So this fellow went to basic and then to skill specific training as an electrician. I suspect that is what the UA at El Toro was about. It was a Marine Air Base and I suppose that is where he did his six months or so of specialist training. Then Lottabull went back home and one weekend a month he went to a reserve center for drill and each summer he went to a Marine base for two weeks where he did low grade electrical maintenance. Then he was discharged from the active reserve after about 31/2 years of drill status. He was a zero not to be promoted to at least PFC. Another pretend hero who turns out to be a BX commando.
4 posted on 01/22/2019 10:52:42 PM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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Funny how liberals suddenly love the military when it suits their interests.


6 posted on 01/22/2019 10:55:33 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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And I was a Special Forces Sniper Pilot SEAL Paratrooper in the Submarine Service /sarcasm


9 posted on 01/22/2019 11:00:26 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Does seeing the movie “Good Morning Vietnam” count as service in country? /sarc


12 posted on 01/22/2019 11:23:26 PM PST by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal)
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His Indian name is “Dances with Soros”.


13 posted on 01/22/2019 11:28:35 PM PST by Beagle8U (Beto went to Liz Warren's genealogist to prove that he was 1/1000 Hispanic.)
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Those kids could have chosen to beat that insufferable Indian.

And if he had hit the kid with the drum I would be jumping right in, right then.

He did not.

So they did not.

What they chose to do instead was BTFO (Beat) the Chiefs of the Deep State that sent all those various asses there in the first place. They chose Lawfulness and Goodness as their tools for the job. They chanted their cheers.

They DID NOT let themselves get drawn into a fight with any of those Deep State Pawns, including that obnoxious insufferable anti American Indian.

They were bravely out there and engaged in the marketplace of face to face free speech, where such confrontations happen.

They had (adult?) Derpies all up in their face and they were armed only with lawfulness and goodness and MAGA hats.

They were not going to change the minds of any of the brownshirts there.

They DID, however, get the attention of a whole lot of folks who are just starting to pay attention. Minds that are much more likely to be positively swayed.

These children seem an almost Heaven sent example for an approach to use for Deep State Demolition when one is not actually forced into physical self defense.

Everyone can see it was an epic beatdown of a big lie in the end.

What some may not realize is that it was an epic beatdown of a far bigger lie instead.

THE Big Lie.

Don’t let our true enemy get away with making people think that this was just a victory over some obnoxious Derp anti American Indian that now looks like some obnoxious Derp Anti American Indian..

It was so much more.

Sure, it exposed all the lies about the MAGA kids as lies.

But while the largest hate group in the US may be liberal democrats, the most powerful hate group on the planet is the one that again and again sets up these situations and distractions to keep us fighting anyone but them.

This is the group who’s lie those MAGA kids beat down.

While the brownshirts are happy to be brownshirts, and are NOT innocent. They are just brownshirts.

Their job and joy is to get US to become violent and lawless like them. So far they are failing utterly at this.

Their job is also to make normal people afraid to walk outside anywhere they might be confronted by these types, or say what they think. (Or dare to wear a MAGA hat in public.) In this, they have greater success.

Haters are gonna hate.

I don’t want that Indian dead or harmed, or to even have his drum taken away. He may be an enemy, but he’s not my target.

He’s not a hill I’m going to chance giving the deep state ammo over. The kid handled it exactly right.

Same goes for the useful idiot Black Israelites.

The Deep State is setting up situations over and over and over again and they hope they can collect ammo to paint US as a hate group and eventually to drive our society towards the criminalization of Free Speech and thought. (and MAGA hats and guns.)

THIS is what was REALLY going on there.

This is what this victory was over.

So. Actual Deep State Power People are the enemy that I would rather fight and vanquish instead of letting the deep state distract me and pit me against their tiny groups of antifa, Anti-American Indians, degenerates in glowing new flavors, or other colorful SJW types over and over and over again, hoping *I* do or say something they can use for their evil ends.

All’s fair in love and war, but let’s not lose sight of who the real enemy generals are, and how they love to use hate. Our hate, the left’s hate. All hate. Used to keep the focus off those who’s interests it serves to keep the focus off them.

Those kids shamed powers and principalities with their example.

Not just some obnoxious anti-American Indian.


15 posted on 01/22/2019 11:35:22 PM PST by EasySt ( Praise the Lord and pass the meme-unition!)
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17 posted on 01/22/2019 11:51:45 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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Thanks so much for finding and posting this information. Now this character will slither away into obscurity, and the Leftist Loonies will glom onto the next Outrage! (tm) until it is shown as a fraud. Rinse, Repeat. I don’t understand how any decent, thinking person can vote Democrat any more, and for a looooong time.


21 posted on 01/22/2019 11:59:55 PM PST by guthunde47
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Just another Ward Churchill!! AWOL THREE TIMES??? What a LOSER CREEP!


34 posted on 01/23/2019 2:02:25 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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No proof exists that he is Native American.


37 posted on 01/23/2019 2:14:52 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (FreeRepublic.com is the most-used app on my iPhone.)
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He was supposedly taken from his mother by the courts at the age of five (I assume because of neglect) and brought up by a white family. He seems to have joined the Marines at the age of 17, which means he was waivered in, something that often occurred because of adolescent discipline problems.

It sounds like his whole life he has been kind of a mess, and this Indian gig is his way of dealing with it.


39 posted on 01/23/2019 3:21:55 AM PST by livius
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This is from his speech at Arlington in 2008’

“Phillips also described coming back to the U.S. as a veteran from Vietnam. “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me.”

https://archive.is/EiR1I#selection-1195.0-1195.137


40 posted on 01/23/2019 3:37:40 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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43 posted on 01/23/2019 4:30:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Nathan Phillips went AWOL THREE TIMES while he was stationed at El Toro Marine Base in Southern California, according to his DD-214 form.

There were waves to catch at the nearby beaches. A man's got to do something for a living.
45 posted on 01/23/2019 4:36:52 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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Per FR member Captain Rhino:

Looked at Chief’s video.

Couple of points for clarification about the pages shown from his service record book (SRB). (BTW, the Chief is connected, this info is definitely not from a DD 214. This is an actual scan of his assignments page.):

1. Rifleman for two days.

This is just an admin entry to put him back on to a Marine Corps unit’s rolls after he returned from his initial recruit training and MOS training. Likely this reserve rifle company was providing admin support for all Marine Corps Reserve (MCR) Marines living in the general Omaha area. He was probably joined on 721106 so he could liquidate his travel claim and get his regular pay. The rifleman designation is a default entry. Once they processed his paperwork, he is transferred (by another unit diary entry) the next day (721107) to a MCR aviation utility unit in Lincoln, Nebraska. That’s were he is going to do his weekend drills.

2. Hanging around Lincoln.

He is joined to Marine Wing Utility Squadron 4 (MWUS-4) the next day (721108). MWUS-4 is a place you would expect a refrigeration mechanic to be assigned. The extract shown in the video for this period has standard entries: annual entries for audits and an entry showing him going onto annual active duty for training (ATD) and coming off it 2 weeks later. The last entry we were shown is of his transfer in December 1973. Since we lack the next entry (being joined to the new unit), we should not read too much into this entry. The earlier DD-214 extract shows him not returning to active duty until August 1974, so he was still somewhere in the reserves, perhaps at a unit a little closer to home.

3. Then Something Happened.

In the normal course of events, a Reservist does initial active duty for recruit training and MOS training. (This can be split up if there are no school slots immediately available after completing recruit training.) When not on active duty, reservists drill one weekend a month with their unit and attend two weeks of active duty for training annually(ATD). This is the pattern for the 6-8 years of a typical reserve contract. If you break the contract (by not attending drill weekends or ATD, failing to maintain standards, etc.), you can be ordered to active duty. I am not certain but I also believe it is possible to request to be called to active duty so you can end your contracted period of service earlier. Given his subsequently less than stellar conduct, he was probably ordered to active duty for some significant infraction.

4. His first UA(AWOL) was the last straw for some CO.

The next assignment page entry the Chief shows us is in May 1975 (750519) when he is run to Unauthorized Absence (UA) status. (Absent Without Leave (AWOL) is entered so that the 30 day minimum clock on that offense is simultaneously started in case the Marine is gone longer than a month.) Two days later, 750521 he is sent to confinement (the Brig) for two months. He returns to duty on 750722. He was UA, according to the entries for one, maybe two days. Under normal circumstances, 2 days UA is not punished by two months in the brig. You get 2 months in the brig (usually along with being reduced in rank and fined) when your enlisted and officer leadership is finally, really, and truly feed up with your nonsense. At this point, he has been back on active duty a little less than a year. Imagine what has been going on to reach this point of exasperation with the private. Interestingly, when he goes UA for six days in September 1975, there is no confinement. He just goes back to duty. He is put in UA status again on 751206 but we don’t have any more entries to see how the offense was handled.

5. He may have “Bad Paper.”

What follows is speculation since his full SRB is not available to examine, but I suspect that he might have already been awaiting an administrative discharge or had been tried by a courts martial.

During the early and mid-1970s, the Marine Corps faced a crisis in the number of poor performing Marines it was having to process for discharge. (It was not the only service experiencing this problem.) This toleration of petty infractions sometimes was the case if the unit was being forced into carrying the Marine on its rolls while awaiting completion of the often considerable time required for the automatic review process by an overburdened military judicial system. This review is required when a bad conduct or dishonorable discharge is ordered as part of the sentence of a courts martial. At times during this period, this process was so long that a Marine would complete the confinement portion of their punishment and return to the unit to await the final administrative process. At that point, how much further punishment could be inflicted on someone who had essentially nothing left to lose? The resulting situation was essentially an uneasy truce between the unit and the Marine awaiting discharge. The unit didn’t unduly harass the Marine if the Marine was more or less conforming to expected minimum standards of performance and behavior. In return, the Marine had three squares a day, a place to sleep and bathe, got some portion of a private’s pay, and could go on liberty if he stayed out of/didn’t cause further trouble.

Later in the 70s, the Marine Corps would develop the “Expeditious Discharge Program,” which streamlined the discharge process and greatly shortened the time required from many months to often less than a month to discharge a poor performing/trouble making Marine. Real criminals, as always, continued to be tried and punished by courts martial.

It is unclear if there was or wasn’t a courts martial in his case because the DD-214 extract lists “Not on File” under Transcript of Courts Martial Trial. Considered in context, “Not on file” cannot be considered the equivalent of “N/A.”

On the other hand, the DD-214 simply states his duty status as “Discharged.” So, if there was no courts martial, he might have gone out the gate with a “General” or “Other Than Honorable” discharge based on his low proficiency and conduct marks.

A General discharge is the very best he could have left with because, as the Chief said, still a private after four years of service says something special - and it isn’t good - about the quality of your service.


51 posted on 01/23/2019 5:03:54 AM PST by TigerClaws
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I wonder how Shipley obtained his DD-214? Friends in high places? It can happen. It does happen.

The old chief says -— GOD bless you Shipley and keep rattling their cages.

On a side note - I went through SERE school in Warner Springs, CA before deploying to Nam... with (I was told later) a SEAL. He was the only one who gave the guards problems and I mean problems and the only one who escaped. I have great respect for SEALS.


55 posted on 01/23/2019 5:14:34 AM PST by airdalechief
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He looks African-American to me.


59 posted on 01/23/2019 5:40:58 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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bkmrk


60 posted on 01/23/2019 5:45:16 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NoLibZone; big'ol_freeper; Impy; SevenofNine; Cletus.D.Yokel; Rummyfan; Liberty Valance; Perdogg; ..
Re: He claimed he was a Recon Ranger

Well when I was in Nam, I was a... Pink Beret!

You'd be surprised how many VC... surrendered to Bendy.

Really, Big... Ya know that make you an raging anti-robotite--

Gadzooks, you know, if I'd just drank a little more... I'd have won that damn war!

And what a wonderful world it would be... now--

63 posted on 01/23/2019 5:58:24 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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