Skip to comments.We're Not Even 30 Days Into 2019 And It Looks Like Democrats Are About To Have A Civil War
Posted on 01/17/2019 5:21:09 AM PST by Kaslin
The 2018 midterms were a disaster for House Republicans. Democrats gained 40 seats, retook the majority, and, to our horror, Nancy Pelosi is speaker again. They were elected to stop Trump, to block him at every turn, and lead the effort for his impeachment and removal from office. Any Democrat who says otherwise is lying. The base demands Trump go at all costs. The younger, feistier Democrats say that openly. The older crew tries to downplay it, but ultimately thats their goal. Theyre banking heavily that the report by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is leading the DOJs Russia probe, finds something impeachable. Dont hold your breath on that; the Russia collusion allegation has been whats kept Democrats hopeful since 2016. Yet, while doing battle with the Trump White House is a top priority, the progressive Left also wants to clean house in the Democratic Party as well. The party elite is reportedly trying to rein in Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), as they view her antics to be distracting, but theyre also not pleased that shes willing to help boot fellow Democrats who are viewed as too moderate. Shots have been fired inside the ship (via Politico):
Im sure Ms. Cortez means well, but theres almost an outstanding rule: Dont attack your own people, said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.). We just dont need sniping in our Democratic Caucus.
Incumbent Democrats are most annoyed by Ocasio-Cortezs threat to back primary opponents against members of their ranks she deems too moderate. But their frustration goes beyond that: Democratic leaders are upset that she railed against their new set of House rules on Twitter the first week of the new Congress. Rank and file are peeved that theres a grassroots movement to try to win her a top committee post they feel she doesnt deserve.
GQ added that the reason why the Democrats were so successful in House races in 2018 was due to candidates like Ocasio-Cortez:
What Democrats like those quoted here still do not understand, apparently, is that Ocasio-Cortez's failure to morph into a country club politician is the whole point: It is the reason people like her, and see her as perhaps capable of advancing policy proposals on which Democrats, despite their alleged best efforts, have not yet been willing or able to deliver. If she were another backslap-happy centrist who prioritized the accumulation of seniority above the promotion of an ambitious progressive agenda, she'd be Joe Crowley. Voters in her district were tired of Joe Crowley, whose each term was the same as the last, which is why they didn't elect him again.
Speaking of which: Sniping at Ocasio-Cortez like this is a habit that Democrats develop at their own peril. The party is two months removed from winning the House in a landslide thanks to the energy generated by young, envelope-pushing candidates like her, and already, some members are so nervous about what it might mean for their livelihoods that they'd rather squash that energy than see where it can take the country.
And now, it seems progressive groups are already taking aim at those moderate Democrats. These are the same people that helped Ocasio-Cortez get elected (via The Hill):
Progressive groups are set to back primary challenges against conservative Democrats in 2020, as they look to expand their wings footprint in Congress by taking out incumbents they see as out of tune with the current state of the party.
Justice Democrats, a progressive group that helped propel Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) in her primary upset last year, has its eyes set on a number of more moderate House lawmakers in safe blue districts, with Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) as the first target.
Plus, some national groups appear to be gearing up again to take on Rep. Daniel Lipinski (D-Ill.), who narrowly won a competitive primary in 2018 against a candidate backed by progressive and abortion rights groups.
The primary challenges come as progressive Democrats push for more influence in the new House majority and as they look to shape the partys politics in 2020, having been emboldened after Democratic voters rejected a few entrenched incumbents last year.
And on the Hill, these feisty progressives could cause trouble for Democratic Party elders on the various committees as well:
A group of fiery progressives led by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York is poised to take seats on the powerful House Financial Services Committee, posing a big challenge for new Chairwoman Maxine Waters.
Waters, a Los Angeles Democrat, is a liberal icon in her own right. But as head of the committee, she will have to play the role of peacemaker to bring together the new members with moderates on the panel some of whom are wary of primary threats stoked by their colleagues on the left.
A party steering committee on Tuesday night recommended the assignments, which will next be approved by the Democratic caucus.
If things get personal on the panel, as some Democrats fear, it could make it more difficult for Waters to keep party lawmakers together, even if the new members may be more in sync with her views on how to rein in corporate America and the Trump administration.
The liberal group Justice Democrats publicly pressured Democratic leaders to put Ocasio-Cortez on the tax-writing Ways and Means panel, Tlaib on the Appropriations Committee and Porter on Financial Services. But more senior lawmakers pushed back behind the scenes, arguing that freshmen should not be given spots on the most exclusive committees when other members who have been in Congress for years have been waiting their turn.
In the end, Financial Services, which was struggling to fill its roster, seemed like the right landing spot for the freshmen. And Waters, who is affectionately referred to as Auntie Maxine by many on the left, is just the chairwoman to oversee such an eclectic mix of members, other lawmakers said.
So, in all, progressive groups already reloading to take out their own within the party, far left loons that could cause heartburns on the various committees in the House, and reports of rank-and-file Democrats already queasy with how this far left faction operates. This sounds like a toxic cocktail that could implode the House Democratic caucusand I hope it does. The next two years could be dotted with the far left putting forth insane proposals, whilst the more experienced members are left to do damage control. It wastes timethe most precious resource in politics. And while a do-nothing House could work to Trumps benefit in 2020, especially if he proposes initiatives that promote jobs and grow the economy that in turn get blocked, the president can capitalize on the internal drama. If things turn out poorly between the far left and more establishment wings, the president has plenty of fodder for the stump. Trump can go out there, saying he wanted to create jobs, but the House Democrats constant fighting, like something out of a bad daytime soap opera, prevented people from getting bigger paychecks and future employment. On top of that, theyre more about impeaching me than helping all of you. Sad!
Is it a period of civil war among the Democrats? The elements for one are right there.
The DEMs could implode, but no one would report it and half the country wouldn’t care or change their votes (whether they voted or someone else voted for them).
... Oh, not HER again.
I’m about as sick of Occasional-Kotex as I am of Obama. Is it really necessary to have multiple threads about her every day here?
I look forward to watching Maxine Waters try to rein in Occasional Cortex.
Took Lincoln 4 years to bring the rebellious Democrats under heel - I think were just getting started
I am REALLY sick of peoplenon both sides describing the Democrats as retaking the majority in the House, as if Dem control were the default position. Over the last quarter-century, The Democrats have been in control of the house for over nkh FOUR years. It only seems like more becauss of quislings like Hastert, Boehner, Ryan and their supporting cast/enablers.
John Solomon came out with some very interesting information yesterday, and it all will be buried by the absolutely incomprenhensible stupidity spurted out by Guiliani.
I thought lawyers representing clients were supposed to be tight lipped, saying only the bare minimum, but this man trips over his tongue continuously.
Trump’s lawyers? Wrong thread?
The Republican Party has its own Civil War too, between the nationalist patriots and the globalist traitors.
globalist traitors is a figment of your isolationist mind
Why do we have to see this horse faced A-hole on every third thread around here? I think there’s an obsession going on.
Ditto, see my post.
So you don't really exist? Are you a bot?
I exist as a conservative Republican businessman that applauds the successful Presidential effort to increase jobs by increasing exports of American products.
Radical, Socialist... can dance fast. Has Big Gums.
I think Democrats had little to do with the loss of the house last November.
It was mostly Paul Ryan and it was by design.
He allowed far to many retirements and resignations. He did not work for campaign cash. He repeatedly attacked the party and its leader throughout the campaign.
The remainder of the loss belongs to John McCain who killed the repeal and replacement of Obamacare
Heh, heh. History hath shown that Socialists can’t abide Communists and vice versa.
Oooooh. Burn. You gonna take that, Alexandra? I wouldn't.
The “people of color” base of the Democrat Party is no longer interested in being represented by white liberals. This presents a problem for the “old guard”, especially white feminist democrats.
And if the Democrat party loses the white women, it will implode.
Looks like it; must have hit the wrong one. It is not the first time, caught the pages jumping. Anyway, the sentiment is true.
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