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The diet to save lives, the planet and feed us all?
BBC ^ | 1/16/19 | James Gallagher

Posted on 01/16/2019 6:41:57 PM PST by Libloather

A diet has been developed that promises to save lives, feed 10 billion people and all without causing catastrophic damage to the planet.

Scientists have been trying to figure out how we are going to feed billions more people in the decades to come.

Their answer - "the planetary health diet" - does not completely banish meat and dairy.

But it requires a ginormous shift in what we pile onto our plates and turning to foods that we barely eat.

What changes am I going to have to make?

If you eat meat every day then this is the first biggie. For red meat you're looking at a burger a week or a large steak a month and that's your lot.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; diet; fake; food; fraud; hoax; planet
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To: Libloather

Soylent WHAT??


61 posted on 01/17/2019 4:39:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Well; there are at least FIVE that are GMTA!!!
62 posted on 01/17/2019 4:41:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left
What changes am I going to have to make?

If you like your food; you can keep your food.

63 posted on 01/17/2019 4:42:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Libloather

Whole wheat bread and cheese with some fruit and meat thrown in when available


64 posted on 01/17/2019 4:46:16 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Princess Gray Beaver, for President?)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left
Europe and North America need to cut back massively on red meat, East Asia needs to cut back on fish, Africa on starchy vegetables.
 
 
 
 
EastAsia has ALWAYS been at war with Oceania

65 posted on 01/17/2019 4:46:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Libloather
Yay...we all get to experience life as our pauper ancestors did.
66 posted on 01/17/2019 4:57:44 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well... lady or not, I do protest your repeated complaints about being asked to provide sources & quotes.

And I protest the repeated trolling your side tries to engage in.


You are here trying to defend the Lost Cause myths that 99% of historians view as little more than self-serving revisionism.

You are here trying to defend PC Revisionism that 99% of historians before the current crop of Leftists viewed as little more than self serving wartime propaganda.


So you start off with the disadvantage that nobody can
take your opinions seriously. The way you add weight to mere opinions is by citing the sources & quotes you took them from.

Nah it is you who starts off with the disadvantage and who cannot be taken seriously here. You have aligned yourself with hardcore Leftist historical revisionists even though you claim to be conservative. You are obviously nothing of the sort.


Now some of us are somewhat familiar with various arguments and have seen where they come from. So we know sources for some arguments and may not challenge you on that at first.
But whenever you concoct something new, then we’ll want to see where you got it and if all you do is blow smoke in response, we’ll write it off as being nothing more than unsubstantiated opinions.

Yes and I’m familiar with the drivel you PC Revisionists have been spewing in Academia since the 1980s. I’ve seen the usual BS from the usual Leftist sources and unsubstantiated claims. I am used to your side’s standard tactics.


You might look at it this way: a request for sources is also an offer to take your argument seriously, if the source proves legit.

LOL! You’ve been presented those sources umpteen times already. Lemme give you a tip. You are never going to sit in judgment here. You are never going to send me on a wild goose chase to try to satisfy some standard you determine wasting huge amounts of time when due to your bias of course, the standard can never be satisfied. I wasn’t born yesterday. I’ve seen trolling before and know how it works.


That’s why I keep dozens & dozens of sources, quotes & data summaries handy just in case I’m challenged on them.

Yes, I do too.


Plus I know how to look up many more whenever something new comes along.

Ditto.


Let me put it this way: your opinions are only as valuable as the data they’re based on and if you refuse to supply us sources, then your opinions, by themselves, carry no weight here.

You’ve been supplied facts quotes and sources - a wide variety of sources - scores of times. We both know you will never admit that ANY Source presented that refutes your dogma will ever be deemed acceptable. If you cannot challenge its credibility, you will simply pivot to claiming its “cherry picked” or “irrelevant”. You will do anything to avoid admitting you were ever wrong about anything.


So now you are also an expert in Civil War historiography and in intellectual trends in academia? And you acquired this expertise where, exactly?

You don’t have to be an expert to read. I’ve read up on this topic quite a lot. As for my credentials, I don’t care to engage in some internet dick measuring contest over claimed credentials that none of us can actually verify. That’s just a waste of time.


I’m no expert but do remember being taught as a young man that Charles Beard’s “progressivism” and “economic determinism”, aka Marxism, were at the root cause of Civil War.

I didn’t believe it then and don’t now because that’s not what those people said at the time.

Charles Beard was correct that both sides were really motivated by money - as people pretty much always are - no matter what grand noble cause they claim is their motivation.


What they said then was slavery was their number one reason
for secession. That makes slavery important regardless of how sophisticated intellectuals with their Marxist theories might try to explain it away.

They cited the Northern states violation of the compact by refusing to enforce the fugitive slave clause of the constitution. They were correct - that was a violation of the constitution. That however, was a pretext. It was said by many at the time - including many Northerners that it was a pretext and the fact that the Southern states were offered slavery forever by express constitutional amendment and turned it down shows that protection of slavery was obviously not their motivation.


No, if you review the list of Civil War “schools” in my link, you’ll see that the Marxists, Progressives & leftists have always emphasized economic determinism over slavery or race.

No. Howard Zinn, James McPherson and the rest of the 1960’s Leftists who came to prominence in Academia in the 1980s were the ones who put forth the whole PC Revisionist “it was all about slavery” dogma. They and those like them are unabashed Leftists. Go to any Liberal Arts faculty today and you can see that they are overwhelmingly hardcore Lefties.


Facts & quotes are “real history” and I’ve not seen those from FLT-bird.

Then you’ve simply refused to look because I have provided them umpteen times including in this thread.


“Schools of thought”, interpretations, theories, points of view, etc., are all matters of opinions, all subject to scrutiny and revision. Opinions unsupported by substantial “real history” are worth only the electrons used to distribute them.

So you admit you cling to PC Revisionist dogma put forth in Academia by hardcore Leftists in the last generation. YOu’d have saved a lot of time if you had just said that from the start.


67 posted on 01/17/2019 7:30:38 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

oops. Wrong thread. Mea Culpa.


68 posted on 01/17/2019 7:31:14 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: rfp1234

Meat is Protein, prime food for Diabetics. Turn the food thingy upside down. Eat in moderation, imbibe in moderation. What is so hard about that?

I’ve not had a Steak in 5 yrs due to FDA approved meds ruining my teeth. Been going through Dental work to remove the last 11 PAINFUL teeth for just a lower denture since Aug 9, I might see a lower denture in February. I’m sick of pasta you can swallow whole. And have to PAY for it myself. Medicare/Tricare Life doesn’t cover dental work, VA only covers the Ret. Service member if injured in Service. Same goes for hearing aids.


69 posted on 01/17/2019 7:42:44 AM PST by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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To: j. earl carter
The projections I've seen are that the word's population will top out at about 11 billion before starting a slow decline.

Since having children is a mix of culture, incentives, politics and necessity - how were these numbers created?

70 posted on 01/17/2019 7:44:23 AM PST by GOPJ (Replace furloughed government workers with illegals for ten bucks an hour. Show dems how it feels.)
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To: Libloather

Don’t tell me what to eat. Instead of feeding 10 billion, get non-industrial countries to control their out-of-control fertility!

Who says “ginormous” and “biggie”?


71 posted on 01/17/2019 10:13:31 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: GailA
If...

..you haven't any teef,
up about or beneaf,
you can gum it with your gummy gum gums!

Apologies to Stan Freeberg

72 posted on 01/17/2019 12:22:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: I want the USA back
Instead of feeding 10 billion, get non-industrial countries to control their out-of-control fertility!


For only $19 a month...
 

73 posted on 01/17/2019 12:27:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GOPJ
"Since having children is a mix of culture, incentives, politics and necessity - how were these numbers created?"

Population growth has followed a pattern across all cultures as modern medicine and birth control have been introduced. There is no guarantee that the trends would apply everywhere, but large parts of the world are already experiencing population decline. The USA and Europe would have declining populations without immigration. The Chinese have pretty much ended the one child policy.

74 posted on 01/17/2019 12:59:58 PM PST by j. earl carter
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