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Trump's Shutdown Trap?
American Thinker ^ | January 15, 2019 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 01/15/2019 6:05:56 AM PST by captaincaveman

Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy? In only 5 more days of the already-“longest government shutdown in history” (25 days and counting, as of today), a heretofore obscure threshold will be reached, enabling permanent layoffs of bureaucrats furloughed 30 days or more.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; belongsinbloggers; blog; buildthefence; cutgovernment; cutspending; daca; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; donaldtrump; dreamact; dreamers; rif; shutdown; thomaslifson; trump; wall; wallfunding
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To: hal ogen

Excellent point at how Fed employees look at the private sector


81 posted on 01/15/2019 5:49:01 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: captaincaveman

Leftist bureaucrats lose jobs, government saves money and functions better. Trifecta just there. And he’s going to get a wall in the end.


82 posted on 01/15/2019 6:45:30 PM PST by grumpygresh (is this the Rubicon year? (I'm not talking about the wine))
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To: T Ruth

You can’t make that assumption, plus political persuasion should be completely irrelevant.

The young ones have the new ideas and a decent work ethic. We want to keep them.


83 posted on 01/15/2019 8:18:31 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Furloghed and okay with it. BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: 1Old Pro; All

I suspect that on the whole privatizing government work ends up costing the taxpayers more.


84 posted on 01/15/2019 10:15:00 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Fai Mao

And private citizen groups could oversee the parks and do other jobs that need to be done.

HeeHeeHee!


85 posted on 01/15/2019 10:22:23 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks captaincaveman.

86 posted on 01/15/2019 11:38:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: grumpygresh

That depends on the type of contract. Contract personnel are more expensive than government employees. They do not get paid more, but the overhead is more. Plus, contractors can leave at any time. So if you are depending on them, they can cause much inconvenience.

My agency is not affected by the shutdown. Trump had the foresight to fund the DOD months ago.


87 posted on 01/16/2019 3:35:36 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: wiseprince
Not that I WANT people to lose their jobs

JOBS?!!!

These overpaid bureaucRATS don't work. We want these RATs off the gravy train, and forced into the thriving private sector, actually working for a living.

Government "workers" are the ultimate class of parasites.

88 posted on 01/16/2019 4:10:23 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: lapsus calami; Psalm 73

Same might could happen with this situation.

***************

Perhaps. But after Trump backed down on his stated commitment to “immediately declassify” the FISA docs I’m not so optimistic. That too was an opportunity to drain the swamp and strike at the deep state. It turned out to be a lost opportunity.


89 posted on 01/16/2019 5:25:15 AM PST by Starboard
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To: antidemoncrat
Unlike any of the recent Presidents, nearly everything Pres. Trump has done has been to help the American people and the DC cesspool cannot stand that.

Everyday I get up and wonder how DJT has survived when Pres Kennedy could not!!! I pray for his safety each and every day. BUT I refuse to pray for a nation that has turned it's back on the one and only God
90 posted on 01/16/2019 6:17:22 AM PST by Cheerio ( #44, the UNKNOWN Manchurian Candidate)
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To: Cheerio

When people say “God bless America” after we have let 60+ million babies be murdered I think “Really”.


91 posted on 01/16/2019 6:47:20 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Big Red Badger

92 posted on 01/16/2019 8:35:41 AM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: All
I liked the post where there were no tears cried by the average schlub government worker when coal miners, auto workers and construction workers are laid off. I say ..let'um starve, go get a real job.

The stereo-typical Federal government worker, kind of mirrors the average welfare recipient. Black, 40's, female, 2 or 3 bastard kids, up to their neck in CC payments and debt to pay for the weaves, nails, LCD TVs, expensive clothes and nights out with the girls. They sit all day long with a headset in their ears, looking Excel spreadsheets and basically wasting your money and being nasty to you on the 1-800-IMHERETOHELP gimmedat helpline at some alphabet agency. Federal government work is basically a giant affirmative action\retards jobs programs. Sucks being a Black, racist government workers doesn't it Laqunndisha?

93 posted on 01/16/2019 10:07:23 AM PST by pburgh01 (Negan all the MSM)
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To: Starboard; Psalm 73
 
 
What's your point by comparing two separate situations that have different dynamics at play?
 
 

94 posted on 01/16/2019 10:52:33 AM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: lapsus calami
"What's your point..."

Was not my point, not my original post, not even my reply.
Someone tagged me onto a reply to something else. So, I haven't an answer for you.

95 posted on 01/16/2019 10:58:23 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: Candor7

That's a radial plan!

96 posted on 01/16/2019 11:21:28 AM PST by rfp1234 (I don't watch CNN for the same reason I don't drink from the toilet.)
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To: 1Old Pro

My thoughts exactly!


98 posted on 01/16/2019 12:07:42 PM PST by southernindymom
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To: lapsus calami

You talked about Trump paring down the size of the administrative bureaucracy. You used an analogy to make your point. I too used an analogy to make my point, which was to say that given a previous opportunity to drain the swamp (releasing the FISA docs) Trump didn’t follow through and do it. I’m sorry if that truth/reality offends you.

Its a case of wishful thinking versus reality. The FISA docs could have been the impetus to legitmately fire a bunch of people, but despite Trump’s rhetoric, the reality is the opportunity was lost.

It would be great if Trump would take this opportunity to reduce the civilian workforce but he passed on the last one and likely isn’t going to be pairing down the bureaucracy anytime soon.


99 posted on 01/16/2019 12:24:13 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Psalm 73

Please see my post #99 on the ‘Trump’s Shutdown’ thread. I should have included you in my reply to lapsus calami.


100 posted on 01/16/2019 12:27:44 PM PST by Starboard
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