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The Fall of the Aztecs, The Bloody Path to Tenochtitlan
War History Online ^ | 15NOV17 | Greg Jackson

Posted on 01/09/2019 10:35:33 PM PST by vannrox

Tenochtitlan was an absolutely amazing city. The city was larger than any in Europe at the time and held approximately 200,000 people with some estimates as high as 350,000. Built over 100 years or so on Lake Texcoco, the city was impressively organized.

Being built on the lake meant that land platforms were created as needed in an orderly fashion leaving clean canal streets for canoe traffic and multiple bridges and paths for pedestrians. Each neighborhood was distinct and had its required services from schools to garbage collectors.

The city also had fabulous amenities befitting a great city. Huge gardens were quite popular and the city zoo and aquariums held wildlife from all over Mesoamerica. Fresh spring water flowed through several aqueducts along the three long causeways that connected the city to the north, west and south shores.

Among the beauty of Tenochtitlan was a great amount of war and death. The large central temple complex usually held daily sacrifices and many of the different gods required human sacrifices whether they be battle captives or willing victims. On either side of the main temple were the houses of the eagle and jaguar warriors, elite warrior clans who led the armies in battle.

When Hernan Cortez brought his band of around 600 soldiers to Mexico, his chief motivation was evading his superior. Many of the men’s motivations were some combination of gold, power or God. As Cortez established a base at Veracruz he left some men to guard the camp while proceeding inland, but not before destroying his fleet to prevent any insurrection from a desire to escape.

He had a force of about 3-400 men with steel armor and swords along with crossbows, primitive firearms, and a few light cannons. One of his men, Gerónimo de Aguilar, was a survivor of a shipwreck eight years’ prior and had learned many of the languages and customs.

The temple complex. on the flat lake the temples rose above the city and could be seen for miles. The temple complex. On the flat lake, the temples rose above the city and could be seen for miles.

In a series of misguided battles, the confederation of tribes known as the Tlaxcala launched several attacks against the advancing army of Cortez. In these first engagements the Spanish were faced with armies numbering in the hundreds of thousands and easily prevailed. The Aztec Macuahuitl was a viscious weapon against unarmored foes and indeed in these battles a horse was essentially decapitated but the steel armor of the Spaniards was too effective.

Counter to some popular thought, the Spanish actually fought mostly with swords and crossbows, though they had a similar devastating result. Steel swords cut right through the padded cotton armor of the natives and crossbow bolts would fly right through the light shields. When firearms were used that had a truly terrific effect with their loud bangs and smoke they truly terrified the natives.

After every battle, Cortez released prisoners with messages of peace. Finally, the Tlaxcala were willing to meet, and the two sides realized that they both sought to control the Aztecs. The Tlaxcala were one of the few independent groups left near Tenochtitlan and were often targets of new wars primarily to steal more sacrificial victims. After this alliance was formed, the king/emperor Montezuma urgently requested to see Cortez and summoned him to Tenochtitlan before any more of his enemies united against him.

The motives of Montezuma are difficult to ascertain, he clearly was afraid of the Spanish to a degree owing to their established power and strange origins, but he seems to have attempted to orchestrate an ambush as Cortez was on his way to Tenochtitlan and prepared and sent an army towards Veracruz. He seems to have truly favored an appeasement policy, giving gifts to get the Spanish to leave but also seemed ready to hit hard with his armies.

When Cortez and his men arrived at Tenochtitlan they were given a royal welcome. They were given rooms in the royal residences and given tours around the city. They made notes of the impressive causeways and the city zoo as well as the evidence of wealth and treasures everywhere.

Here though the Spanish began to become horrified by the constant and routine human sacrifices. While it is true that the Spaniards often lusted after power and riches, the witnessing of what they perceived as pure evil would have also provided future motivation to topple the empire. Not only were their sacrifices but other brutal acts such as feeding these victims to captive jaguars and outright cannibalism.

The details are uncertain, but Cortez seems to have figured out some of Montezuma’s plots to attack the Veracruz settlement and decided to hold the emperor captive. This captivity was very civil with all daily activities, including sacrifices, continuing for months, but with the Spanish cautiously monitoring things.

This standoff persisted until Cortez had to leave the city to meet a force of around 900 Spaniards tasked with arresting Cortez for disobeying the Cuban (New Spain) governor. Cortez was able to ambush skillfully and capture the commanding officer and showed his great speaking ability by convincing the 900 men to join his cause.

While Cortez was with his newly gained army, his garrison in Tenochtitlan faced dire odds. The city was at peace when Cortez left but his second in command, Pedro de Alvarado, had been invited to a traditional Aztec feast. Accounts differ but supposedly unprovoked, Alvarado blocked the exits and slaughtered all the natives at the Feast, 600 to 1,000 people mostly of the noble class were ruthlessly slaughtered and their bodies looted for jewelry.

Following this slaughter, the residents of Tenochtitlan had enough of the Spaniards and spurred by a divine proclamation that the Spanish must be expelled, they besieged the palace complex with the garrison and the captive Montezuma.

a different massacre but no less helpless than the one at the Aztec festival a different massacre but no less helpless than the one at the Aztec festival. with guns and steel weapons the Spanish had no problem killing everyone in the temple. their looting of the bodies shows the greed, but everyone was likely on edge irregardless of the desire for treasure. Cortez had secured his army and had gained more local allies but was now faced with the prospect of losing his entire city garrison, his captive Montezuma and his foothold in the city. Cortez had to figure out how to regain his hold on the 200,000 people in the city while saving the few hundred they were trying to capture and sacrifice. Reports from the besieged Spanish maintained that the Aztecs would shout threats such as, “you will be sacrificed” and “we will eat you”. Every day of this would have been agonizing for the Spanish, knowing full well that capture meant certain and brutal death.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
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To: vannrox

Awesome post!


61 posted on 01/10/2019 3:11:51 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Was this somebody’s sixth grade history report?

That was hard to read wasn't it?.....I thought it was just me.

62 posted on 01/10/2019 3:20:58 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: DesertRhino

“And all they asked for was your heart.”

From what I’ve read, Aztec’s were especially fond of sacrificing young virgins....


63 posted on 01/10/2019 3:24:30 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: vannrox

Planning to be there...we Hernan Cortez embarked, Good Friday... this year.. it will be 500 tears. The arrival of Cortez was the big game changer that year.


64 posted on 01/10/2019 3:47:49 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: pacificus

I think your numbers are highly exaggerated. You have to be careful; revisionist history is exceedingly easy to find. You should be suspicious if the history is blatantly one-sided (as what you refer to seems to be), or if the numbers are unrealistic.

The natives of this continent were constantly fighting for limited food and resources. They were beset by diseases. The only way this continent could have supported hundreds of millions would have been if they had developed a strong model of cooperation, and more adherence to peaceful coexistance. There are hundreds of millions of people on this continent now, but only because we live peacefully, and have advanced medicine and technology. Had the natives developed a civilization model that could have supported a large population, the Europeans never would have been able to settle here. Had that been the case, the American continents would be more like India or China, with the various trade, business, tourism, etc. exchanges that we have with those countries.

The entire population of the world in the 1500s was estimated to be less than 500 million. That fact alone should make you question those sources that claim that hundreds of millions of natives were slaughtered by the Europeans.


65 posted on 01/10/2019 3:53:52 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: pacificus

Western diseases killed tens of millions, not Cortez and the like. Not even sure where you get hundreds of millions.


66 posted on 01/10/2019 3:54:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: vannrox

A lie of omission is still a lie.


67 posted on 01/10/2019 3:55:12 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: YogicCowboy
I do not object to the term, Native American Tribe(s), but I vehemently object to the term, Native American(s), unless it is applied to all Americans who happen to be natives.

I use the term "Native American" for c!arity. The term "Indian" is so utterly wring that I avoid using it. The wrongness of that word became especially clear when I visited Fiji, where there is a large Indian population, and an Indian asked me about my dreamcatcher earrings. There was no way I could explain them to an Indian and use the word "Indian" to describe Native Americans.

The problem with what to call them will persist for the time being, I suppose. All of my ancestors have been here since the 1600s, which makes me a native, too.

68 posted on 01/10/2019 4:03:17 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: DesertRhino
🎶I left my heart in Tenochtitlan...🎵
69 posted on 01/10/2019 4:12:28 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: exDemMom; pacificus

The missing piece is that the Spaniards didn’t slaughter 90% of the people in the New World.

Diseases brought by them wiped out ten times the number killed in battle, and unlike the Spaniards, these diseases didn’t just target the leaders and native warriors, they killed totally indiscriminately.

A society just doesn’t cohere when 1/2 to 2/3 of the people die of illness, farms don’t get cultivated, crops aren’t harvested, harvests are paltry, and don’t get distributed to population centers.


70 posted on 01/10/2019 4:22:48 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: vannrox

Nice story.

Irregardless is not actually a word.


71 posted on 01/10/2019 4:30:40 AM PST by fruser1
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To: vannrox

In case anybody’s interested:

“There is consensus that the sixteenth-century was a demographic disaster for Mesoamericans. Table 2 displays ten authoritative estimates of population decline for the native population of “Mexico” (or diverse parts thereof) during the first century of Spanish conquest and colonization. Estimates of the magnitude of the disaster ranges from less than twenty-five percent to more than ninety. Three schools or interpretations cluster along this broad band of figures: catastrophists, moderates and minimalists. Catastrophists place the scale of demographic disaster at 90% or more and descry a large native population at contact, exceeding ten, twenty or even thirty million. Moderates detect decreases of “only” 50-85%—disasters nonetheless. They favor smaller populations at contact (5-10 million) but agree with catastrophists on population totals at nadir (1-1.5 million between 1600 and 1650). Minimalists perceive the scale of the disaster as much smaller, on the order of 25%. The principal proponent of the minimalist position, the Argentine linguist Angel Rosenblat, is the catastrophists’ most determined critic. Rosenblat sees a decline of the native population from 4.5 to 3.4 million inhabitants, or 24%, and stabilization beginning within a half century of initial contact with Europeans. It seems to me that the population of central Mexico at contact must have been no less than the minimalist estimate of four or five million and was likely double and possibly even triple that figure.”

From “The Peopling of Mexico from Origins to Revolution”, as part of “The Population History of North America”

http://users.pop.umn.edu/~rmccaa/mxpoprev/cambridg3.htm

As others have noted, the posted article was really interesting, but incredibly poorly written.


72 posted on 01/10/2019 5:15:17 AM PST by Stosh
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To: onedoug

Ping


73 posted on 01/10/2019 5:46:13 AM PST by windcliff
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To: pacificus

But hadn’t figured out the wheel yet?


74 posted on 01/10/2019 5:54:32 AM PST by Trinity5
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To: vannrox

later read


75 posted on 01/10/2019 6:17:51 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: pacificus
Many hundreds of millions of humans died and were killed as a result of these settlements.

There were barely "hundreds of millions" of people in the entire world around 1520 when Cortez met Monctezuma. The highest population estimates I've seen for the Western Hemisphere of that era were around 20 to 30 million.

The world population reached one billion around 1830.

World population growth

There were a few large battles between the early Spanish explorers and established tribes in the New World, but far more died from diseases than from battle.

And land had been fought over in every part of the world throughout human history. There are no innocents in this regard. The Europeans were simply the ones who built ships and crossed oceans to carry on the ancient ways.

76 posted on 01/10/2019 6:18:47 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: pacificus

If you want “hundreds of millions” of deaths, study the Moslem invasions of India and other nations.


77 posted on 01/10/2019 6:22:20 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: Cvengr

Very good points. That said, the Chinese kept quite good records (for the time). Their population was approx. 123 million in 1200, dropped to around 60 million at the beginning of the Ming Dynasty (Mongols, famine, and diseases), and the Chinese population by the end of the Ming Dynasty was near 150 million. Of course, while not having steam power, the Chinese were quite advanced on a national scale in many of the other things necessary to sustain a fairly large population. But even they could not maintain a population over 100 million for long periods, when famine and disease struck, until some further advancements were made...

The best estimates for the pre-Columbian North American population vary wildly, from 2 million to a maximum of 18 million.


78 posted on 01/10/2019 6:34:08 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: the_daug

“Serving Humans”

Don’t go! It’s a cookbook!


79 posted on 01/10/2019 6:34:48 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: pacificus
I’m proud to have significant native American ancestry, AND proud to have European ancestry.

Why? How is someone proud of something they have no control over? I am proud of the the things I have done and the people I have helped. But I do not boast of those things, and certainly not of things I can not take credit for.

80 posted on 01/10/2019 6:39:44 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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