Posted on 01/08/2019 2:49:42 AM PST by McGruff
U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton is set to depart Turkey without meeting with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in an apparent snub over disagreements about Kurdish fighters in Syria.
National Security Council spokesman Garrett Marquis said U.S. officials were told Erdogan cited local election season and a speech to parliament for not meeting with Bolton.
In the speech to parliament Tuesday, Erdogan criticized the U.S. position that the Kurds must be protected, reiterating his government’s position that they are a terrorist group.
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i have been thinking that Trump’s strategy on the Syrian withdrawal issue was to flush a few countries out: Saudis - who rose to occasion with offer to help Kurds and committed $ to rebuild of Syria, Turkey and Russia. Erdogan is now in the hot seat - having amassed troops near Kurds, escalating its words with Israel and now this.
The Kurds have always been the good guys in our book. Turkey is messing with us.
Too bad, Erodgan can’t suffer another coup, a successful one this time and the rising Islamist tide in Turkey stopped.
I’m sure the Turkis ambassador is telling the Russian ambassador, “Don’t forget, WE belong to NATO, WE belong to NATO!”
Actually it's the other way around. The Kurds have been engaged in an ongoing insurgency in Turkey for decades.
This is a perfect example of the abject stupidity of the U.S. getting involved in these internal conflicts all over the globe. It also demonstrates the idiocy of a foreign policy built around a silly "global war on terror." Turkey is a NATO ally, and the U.S. is in a position of protecting an ethnic group that are considered terrorists by the government of that country.
The U.S. insisting on the protection of Kurds from Turkey's government is like Turkey insisting on the protection of MS-13 from the U.S. government.
May Erdogan get boils
An Ally that openly sells sex slaves, women and little girls, taken in war in its capital. We should bomb the H out of them.
Surprised.
A shallow post
and a poor analogy
You really think a country that has killed off 60+ million of our own children and funds Planned Parenthood to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars every year has any moral standing to complain about sex slavery in Turkey?
Under your own moral standards, I hope you're prepared for the day the bombs start raining down on YOU.
Right. It’s always a “poor analogy.” One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.
There is not really any benefit to Erdogan for meeting with Bolton. The President has already committed to bringing our young men and women home quickly. An agreement with Bolton would only hinder his abilities to deal with the Kurds. All he has to do is give it a few more weeks and he is free to act as he wishes.
Ever since my Grampa said that the Turks were vicious killers while he fought them in WW1 I haven’t liked them. They continue to garner my distaste.
And wouldn’t you agree that a terrorist to US would not be a Kurd.?
And wouldn’t you agree that the artificial boundaries in the Mideast should have given the Kurds a ‘homeland?
So your good with trading little girls as sex slaves then?
That's not my decision to make, is it? I'm referring to how their seen in Turkey, not here. I've never met a Kurd in my life.
And wouldn’t you agree that the artificial boundaries in the Mideast should have given the Kurds a ‘homeland?
Not really. In fact, I really don't care. I'm not a Turk, I'm not a Kurd, and I never drew any maps with "artificial boundaries."
What I do know is that I sure as hell resent it when foreign leaders try to tell the U.S. how we should operate here in our country ... so I would be very reluctant to the same thing in some other country thousands of miles away.
Erdogan is upset that Trump’s retreat from Syria is (a) not going to proceed precipitously and (b) is conditional. That will impede Erdogan’s plans for his Al Queda supported massacres of Kurds. Those plans include the “surrender” of some Al Queda forces in towns and villages they control, so they can be incorporated into “local” Syrian forces working with Turkey’s invasion forces.
It's a LOT different, in one key respect: It's something that goes on right here in the U.S., and can be addressed right here through our own governing processes and legal system. We don't have to go to some dump in the Middle East to fix someone else's problems.
So your good with trading little girls as sex slaves then?
Of course not. Did I say that?
Not exactly true, it was foisted upon us by a black robed oligarchy. But that is another discussion.
Slavery of any kind deserves our response. This slavery is of an extremely vile type. Sorry that is does not evoke strong feelings in you.
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