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Five things to know about the Trump Tower Moscow proposal
The Hill ^ | 01/06/19 | Morgan Chalfant

Posted on 01/06/2019 8:03:01 AM PST by yesthatjallen

SNIP

The timeline

Cohen, at the time Trump’s personal lawyer, told the House and Senate Intelligence committees in 2017 that discussions about the project took place between September 2015 and the end of January 2016.

But in November, Cohen admitted that the talks extended into June 2016, a major disclosure that Mueller's prosecutors have evidence Trump was actively pursuing a business deal in Russia at the same time he was speaking positively of Russian President Vladimir Putin and future U.S.-Russia relations on the campaign trail.

The other players

Cohen’s plea shed new light on others involved in the discussions about the property. For one, Cohen admitted that he discussed the status and progress of the project with “Individual 1” — Trump — on more than three occasions.

According to court documents, Cohen also briefed Trump family members within the Trump Organization on the project. But the timing of those conversations remains unclear.

Cohen lied to ‘minimize links’ between Trump, Russia

Prosecutors say that Cohen knowingly lied to Congress in order “minimize links” between Trump and the project and to give the “false impression” that the talks ended before the Iowa caucus and the first presidential primary.

That nugget has raised questions about the extent to which Trump or others knew about, or played a role in, Cohen’s lies. Cohen’s defense attorneys said in a November memo in his case that he was “in close and regular contact with White House-based staff and legal counsel to [Trump]” when preparing his testimony.

The ‘letter of intent’

The Moscow talks resulted in what is known as a letter of intent — a nonbinding agreement that laid the groundwork for formal discussions about the project.

CNN published a copy of that document, signed by Trump on Oct. 28, 2015, that stipulated that the property would include condominiums, a hotel, and commercial and office space in Moscow City. The document was also signed by Andrey Rozov, CEO of IC Expert Investment Co., the Russian firm that would have developed the property.

How it fits into the broader Russia investigation

Trump, who wore the dual-hat of businessman and candidate in the run-up to the 2016 vote, and his company were actively pursuing a real estate project in Russia at the same time the Russian government undertook a campaign to interfere in the election.

Mueller was tasked with investigating Russian interference and any links or coordination between the Trump campaign and Moscow. Probing the Trump Moscow discussions is viewed as crucial to understanding those connections in full


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KEYWORDS: russia; trump
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With any thriving business, people are always pitching ideas. Facebook, IBM, General Motors, et al always have 'something in the the works' if they want to keep the business growing and expanding.

Ideas are always being kicked around. Some are taken seriously and acted upon others are dismissed or ignored.

That Trump and associates were discussing ideas to increase the Trump brand doesn't portend anything nefarious. It's just people thinking out loud, testing, and gauging ideas.

That people 'lied' or downplayed these discussions arose because 'the Russia interfered with the election' narrative implied any tangential link was proof of collusion.

1 posted on 01/06/2019 8:03:01 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

I must ask: So what? Better to plan to build a hotel than to sell them 100’s of $MM in uranium like Clinton did. You aren’t going to rake Trump over the coals with no consequence to Herself. At least not without great peril.


2 posted on 01/06/2019 8:09:28 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: bk1000

I am with you, so what?


3 posted on 01/06/2019 8:17:42 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: bk1000

I must ask....Why didn’t the Obama administration inform the President elect about Russian Interference the moment they “perceived” it?


4 posted on 01/06/2019 8:21:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: bk1000

So what I say. In 16, the betting was her lowness was going to win the election in a landslide. Trump may have decided I may as well keep my businesses going. Beyond that, where does it say that one running for office must stop all business dealings. We don’t require incumbent members of Congress running for President to withdraw from their congressional elections. But of course, being a politician for them is a business. From what I see, it pays very well.

Bottom line, saying their was somekind of collusion between Trump campaign and the Ruskies to get him elected and thereby making “collusion” the equal of a criminal conspiracy is a pipe dream of the commies in the dem party and their fellow travelers in the deep state.


5 posted on 01/06/2019 8:21:43 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: bk1000

For real.

It’s actually too bad that relations between the US and Russia are not such that their President living in our President’s grand building is considered a bad thing.

Sad that our former globalist presidents Bush and then Clinton didn’t take the fall of the Soviet Union to cultivate the Yelstin government as allies much as we had with Germany and Japan. But that would have put a wrench in the military industrial complex. Ike was right.


6 posted on 01/06/2019 8:22:42 AM PST by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: Mouton

The Democrats think they are going find money laundering by Trump when if don’t ya think if Mueller had found it we’d know about it already.

The Democrats are living in la la land to think they are going to find crime when Mueller hasn’t. In fact, this tells me a lot about what the Democrats think of themselves.


7 posted on 01/06/2019 8:25:16 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Mouton
The problem is that we KNOW that Hillary was working with the Russians to produce the dossier. And it is absolutely ridiculous to think Obama didn't know.

What does Putin gain by having Trump in Power....nothing. On the otherhand, Putin could run circles around Hillary.

Putin a woman hater? Of course not. Ask Merkel how that works. Hillary was a third rate candidate interested only in Power.

8 posted on 01/06/2019 8:46:42 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: yesthatjallen

Where is the crime...did any money change hands?


9 posted on 01/06/2019 8:48:38 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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How is this a crime? How could this possibly impeachable? Would it even matter if Mr. Trump had built a resort hotel or whatever in Moscow. He builds them all over the world! So what? Are we then only to elect career politicians for president, people who have never done anything else but flourish and enrich themselves in the DC swamp?


10 posted on 01/06/2019 8:57:54 AM PST by erkelly
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Demorats are not and never was looking for a crime.

Its always been about distraction of their own crimes. Read Carter Page's testimony around page 177?? Robby Mook (Hillary campaign manager) is quoted as saying . . .

when your organization is under attack, such as the hacking "one of the best things you can do is distract attention" Carter quotes Robbie as saying to him, "come up with a story line and put out false information to really change the overall story"

So, the DNC had been hacked since 2015, when the time came they paid Fusion GPS $1.2 million dollars to create a false narrative. Which most have been substantially found to be false by the fact that Mulehead has not filed charges against Carter Page nor Cohen for lying about being in Prague

Its actually far worse than the Demorats looking for a crime

11 posted on 01/06/2019 9:15:08 AM PST by saywhatagain
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I think a more accurate way of stating it is that here we have the "talks" about the building of a hotel at its very early stages during 2015 when PDJT wasn't even a candidate vs. the more than $150,000,000 in BRIBE MONEY the Russian's "donated" to the Clinton Foundation while also paying Shrillary Clinton's husband Bill "The Bent One" Clinton $500,000 to make a one hour speech while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State of the United States of America, during a period she *knew* she was going to run for President.

That my friend and fellow patriot, is exactly what happened.

Where's the collusion on the part of PDJT because there's a shit-ton of it between the Clinton's and the Russian's that the lying liberal lamestream media is still actively covering-up and not talking about.

12 posted on 01/06/2019 9:21:51 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: yesthatjallen

What they DON’T tell you is that Trump began actively seeking a Moscow TT....in 1996!


13 posted on 01/06/2019 9:24:34 AM PST by montag813
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To: erkelly
How is this a crime? How could this possibly impeachable? Would it even matter if Mr. Trump had built a resort hotel or whatever in Moscow. He builds them all over the world! So what? Are we then only to elect career politicians for president, people who have never done anything else but flourish and enrich themselves in the DC swamp?

While many of us cling to the Quixotic notion of our elected officials being of the "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" vein, your point about career politicians is spot on. Trump is no more into personal enrichment than our career elected officals. The President's crime is one of being an outsider, and unfortunately the NeverTrump factions can turn that into a high crime and misdemeanor.

14 posted on 01/06/2019 9:29:01 AM PST by buckalfa (I was so much older then, but I'am younger than that now.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Wow this is serious. I think we need to investigate it for the next two years.


15 posted on 01/06/2019 9:29:47 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Mueller has the intellect of a moth-ball.


16 posted on 01/06/2019 9:49:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: saywhatagain

They will have to impeach him for something other than just because they hate him.


17 posted on 01/06/2019 9:53:46 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: yesthatjallen

Why wouldn’t he pursue his business assuming he lost the election?


19 posted on 01/06/2019 11:41:36 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: yesthatjallen
Most major hotel chains have hotels in Moscow. Sheraton, Ritz Carlton, even Holiday Inn. So why shouldn't the Trump hotel chain have one too?

According to my favorite Russia guru, Stephen Cohen, Russia is more capitalistic than America, we have far more in common with it than we have with China. Etc etc...

Good interview with Tucker Carlson here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/17/stephen_f_cohen_do_you_prefer_impeaching_trump_or_avoiding_nuclear_war_with_russia.html

20 posted on 01/06/2019 11:43:32 AM PST by Veto! (Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me))
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