Posted on 01/06/2019 8:03:01 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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The timeline
Cohen, at the time Trumps personal lawyer, told the House and Senate Intelligence committees in 2017 that discussions about the project took place between September 2015 and the end of January 2016.
But in November, Cohen admitted that the talks extended into June 2016, a major disclosure that Mueller's prosecutors have evidence Trump was actively pursuing a business deal in Russia at the same time he was speaking positively of Russian President Vladimir Putin and future U.S.-Russia relations on the campaign trail.
The other players
Cohens plea shed new light on others involved in the discussions about the property. For one, Cohen admitted that he discussed the status and progress of the project with Individual 1 Trump on more than three occasions.
According to court documents, Cohen also briefed Trump family members within the Trump Organization on the project. But the timing of those conversations remains unclear.
Cohen lied to minimize links between Trump, Russia
Prosecutors say that Cohen knowingly lied to Congress in order minimize links between Trump and the project and to give the false impression that the talks ended before the Iowa caucus and the first presidential primary.
That nugget has raised questions about the extent to which Trump or others knew about, or played a role in, Cohens lies. Cohens defense attorneys said in a November memo in his case that he was in close and regular contact with White House-based staff and legal counsel to [Trump] when preparing his testimony.
The letter of intent
The Moscow talks resulted in what is known as a letter of intent a nonbinding agreement that laid the groundwork for formal discussions about the project.
CNN published a copy of that document, signed by Trump on Oct. 28, 2015, that stipulated that the property would include condominiums, a hotel, and commercial and office space in Moscow City. The document was also signed by Andrey Rozov, CEO of IC Expert Investment Co., the Russian firm that would have developed the property.
How it fits into the broader Russia investigation
Trump, who wore the dual-hat of businessman and candidate in the run-up to the 2016 vote, and his company were actively pursuing a real estate project in Russia at the same time the Russian government undertook a campaign to interfere in the election.
Mueller was tasked with investigating Russian interference and any links or coordination between the Trump campaign and Moscow. Probing the Trump Moscow discussions is viewed as crucial to understanding those connections in full
Ideas are always being kicked around. Some are taken seriously and acted upon others are dismissed or ignored.
That Trump and associates were discussing ideas to increase the Trump brand doesn't portend anything nefarious. It's just people thinking out loud, testing, and gauging ideas.
That people 'lied' or downplayed these discussions arose because 'the Russia interfered with the election' narrative implied any tangential link was proof of collusion.
I must ask: So what? Better to plan to build a hotel than to sell them 100’s of $MM in uranium like Clinton did. You aren’t going to rake Trump over the coals with no consequence to Herself. At least not without great peril.
I am with you, so what?
I must ask....Why didn’t the Obama administration inform the President elect about Russian Interference the moment they “perceived” it?
So what I say. In 16, the betting was her lowness was going to win the election in a landslide. Trump may have decided I may as well keep my businesses going. Beyond that, where does it say that one running for office must stop all business dealings. We don’t require incumbent members of Congress running for President to withdraw from their congressional elections. But of course, being a politician for them is a business. From what I see, it pays very well.
Bottom line, saying their was somekind of collusion between Trump campaign and the Ruskies to get him elected and thereby making “collusion” the equal of a criminal conspiracy is a pipe dream of the commies in the dem party and their fellow travelers in the deep state.
For real.
It’s actually too bad that relations between the US and Russia are not such that their President living in our President’s grand building is considered a bad thing.
Sad that our former globalist presidents Bush and then Clinton didn’t take the fall of the Soviet Union to cultivate the Yelstin government as allies much as we had with Germany and Japan. But that would have put a wrench in the military industrial complex. Ike was right.
The Democrats think they are going find money laundering by Trump when if don’t ya think if Mueller had found it we’d know about it already.
The Democrats are living in la la land to think they are going to find crime when Mueller hasn’t. In fact, this tells me a lot about what the Democrats think of themselves.
What does Putin gain by having Trump in Power....nothing. On the otherhand, Putin could run circles around Hillary.
Putin a woman hater? Of course not. Ask Merkel how that works. Hillary was a third rate candidate interested only in Power.
Where is the crime...did any money change hands?
How is this a crime? How could this possibly impeachable? Would it even matter if Mr. Trump had built a resort hotel or whatever in Moscow. He builds them all over the world! So what? Are we then only to elect career politicians for president, people who have never done anything else but flourish and enrich themselves in the DC swamp?
Its always been about distraction of their own crimes. Read Carter Page's testimony around page 177?? Robby Mook (Hillary campaign manager) is quoted as saying . . .
when your organization is under attack, such as the hacking "one of the best things you can do is distract attention" Carter quotes Robbie as saying to him, "come up with a story line and put out false information to really change the overall story"
So, the DNC had been hacked since 2015, when the time came they paid Fusion GPS $1.2 million dollars to create a false narrative. Which most have been substantially found to be false by the fact that Mulehead has not filed charges against Carter Page nor Cohen for lying about being in Prague
Its actually far worse than the Demorats looking for a crime
That my friend and fellow patriot, is exactly what happened.
Where's the collusion on the part of PDJT because there's a shit-ton of it between the Clinton's and the Russian's that the lying liberal lamestream media is still actively covering-up and not talking about.
What they DON’T tell you is that Trump began actively seeking a Moscow TT....in 1996!
While many of us cling to the Quixotic notion of our elected officials being of the "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" vein, your point about career politicians is spot on. Trump is no more into personal enrichment than our career elected officals. The President's crime is one of being an outsider, and unfortunately the NeverTrump factions can turn that into a high crime and misdemeanor.
Wow this is serious. I think we need to investigate it for the next two years.
Mueller has the intellect of a moth-ball.
They will have to impeach him for something other than just because they hate him.
Why wouldn’t he pursue his business assuming he lost the election?
According to my favorite Russia guru, Stephen Cohen, Russia is more capitalistic than America, we have far more in common with it than we have with China. Etc etc...
Good interview with Tucker Carlson here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/17/stephen_f_cohen_do_you_prefer_impeaching_trump_or_avoiding_nuclear_war_with_russia.html
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