Posted on 12/24/2018 4:59:12 PM PST by vannrox
They were family living in building that was populated with important people from the old politic system, like retired politicians, rich and important people.
It was about about one month after SHTF started, family stayed inside, did not know what to do, their apartment building was one of the few that gangs did not visit yet.
They heard screams and pistol shots, always bad signs, then loud curses, and sound of fighting. Anyway, there was no too much time to do anything smart, while gang get to their floor, they managed to hide girl in one of the closets, and put some pillows and random stuff on her.
They did not have any weapons in their apartment, except kitchen knifes. Son was about 17 years old , perfect age to be killed, or in better (or worse) case to be recruited for their gang.
So he did only thing that made some sense, he just played that he is retarded, staring in one direction, drooling. When the gang entered the apartment, they did not loose too much time on questions, luckily it was just a quick sweep, so they did not find a girl under the blankets, just stealing what they thought is valuable and giving few smacks to the woman. Her husband tried to protect her, but he ended up dead, they even did not shoot him, they just threw him trough the window on the 4th floor.
Son received few kicks, and jokes about his state. And then they left the apartment, five men with weapons. I heard this few days later after the mother and rest of family fled to other relatives in different part of city. Bad story but teaches important lesson I heard over and over.
After SHTF and looting there will be period of silence, things will be quiet. That’s when looters see if they can get away with their crimes. That’s why the house the family lived in was not looted earlier. Too dangerous, there might be still police coming after them.
After first few weeks bad people realized there were no rules. No punishment for looting, and then they moved on to more serious things. Then real madness started.
If you miss opportunity to bug out. Be aware of this time period because it might be best to get out while you can during that time. After that, when bad people know they can do whatever they want to, things will be more serious.
And important thing is: the bad guys rarely look like gangs from the movies, like Mad Max guys. No, almost always they are groups who are pretending to fight for a cause, to protect people, to defend, to recruit. To “help”. They are not going to have funny haircuts and shirts with gang names on it.
In some cases they are going to be police officers, who saw opportunity for them, or army.
Reads like Russia. Who knows...
Is this what China will come to when the Party princelings run off with the last of the money?
I think it was in Bosnia.
It’s worth noting that there is ONE OTHER TIME PERIOD. That is the time between the collapse of society and when the people figure out that all of the government promises to quickly ‘have it under control’ (via flyers, radio, and TV, if still there) are BS and there won’t be any government coming in on a silver horse or whatever.
During that time, for several days, stores are still stocked with goods, but they only accept cash, and most people will listen and try to wait it out.
Be prepared for that, I will likely be your last chance to easily obtain anything for a very, very, long time. So, ideally, be ready before it happens, but if not, DO NOT HESITATE to move once you know this isn’t some ‘localized’ issue (and yes, it will be easy to tell).
Ah, thanks!
Soft target.
They may eventually take my house, but it will cost them dearly.
Selco has been coming up on this forum for more than a decade.
His stories are interesting but we’re now looking at more stories than his time during the occupation could reasonably account for.
Selco also, I think 2 weeks ago, wrote some dreck about Americans and gun confiscation. He responded to the New Jersey defacto bans and collections of magazines with his own experiences - and of course SHTFplan.com was there to pick it up and run with it.
His experience in his country are important for us to read and study. However, taking his advice on how to deal with US problems is a bit presumptuous. He knows how eastern europeans dealt with it. He doesn’t know how eastern Americans will deal with it.
But of course SHTFplan.com runs his stuff all the time (I know he’s SHTFschool.com) and they promote his worst articles as well as their own trash articles about dollar collapses and buying gold.
It’s a setup.
The story sounds plausible and such a thing could happen in larger cities that are disarmed in the blue states.
But I really don’t think that will happen here due to the enormous amount of firepower the civilian folks have. The way the story sounds, there is a light push at first to see what they can get by with, the a lull for a week or two, then the big push for an all out takeover.
If that same scenario plays out here, the light push will take many by surprise. During the lull anyone with a gun will be organized into a militia. The big push will go badly for the bad guys.
Will this happen in the USA?
Assuming that it won’t is risky.
Preparing for it to happen is prudent.
I see a huge block of anti-Bill of Rights “democrats” in Congress right now. They are openly calling for “nuclear attacks” against gun owners. They are arranging laws that make gun owners into criminals.
You think that it will somehow get better?
Fun holiday reading!
I agree with you about how Americans will deal with a SHTF scenario is different than Bosnians. But I have read a lot of Selco and it is good stuff to think about. How looters think and work, mob psychology, actions to be taken at what time, etc. these are good things to ponder.
Take what you can use, set the rest aside.
His writings are good, I’ve read everything i can. But when compared to some things I’ve read here on FR during Katrina, or FerFAL’s writing on Argentina selco does fall short on relevance.
The concept of “bugging out” presumes that there is some place where SHTF has not occurred to “bug out” to.
Where exactly is this place?
It’s less likely due the the heavily armed citizens.
Gun owners made into criminals? Seems to me there’s been a couple articles here where in NJ people are not turning in or destroying there large magazines. Same with IL where there are restrictions.
Perfect gun control is when all are registered, properly locked up in a safe by law, when everyone complies, and then they go around with huge dump trucks and armed guards to collect them. This won’t happen.
Considering the millions of firearms and the scant few that would comply, it just will not turn out well for the libs.
It would have been a better read if someone had edited the work of vannrox and, in a minor miss, your own. I get the idea but don’t like to edit other’s work.
Great point! Where do people go? It would be a mass refugee movement to somewhere, but where? The south? The Mid-West? The country side? Etc...
People in those areas won't want them there. Any big city would be a no-go zone.
I would think that if one thought this was to happen in a relatively short time period (3 to 5 years) they would need to chose where they would want to be when the time comes, and then move there, build there, within the next year or two.
People ain't "bugging out" to anywhere if this were to happen. It will be "make a stand" by yourself or with organization within the community, or become some wandering refugee with everything you own on your back.
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