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1 posted on 12/18/2018 7:55:18 AM PST by navysealdad
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I am of the opinion that what is needed here is a change in optics to counter the MSM. A series of build the wall rallies perhaps?


42 posted on 12/18/2018 8:07:53 AM PST by taxcontrol
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Why blame Drudge for TRUMP FOLDING?! Trump folded, was defeated, gave up, lost, whatever. That is the problem. Why did he? Blame it on media, on Republicans, on what? Maybe on Trump. He couldn’t get $5 billion when $25 billion was on the table months ago. I think the blame starts squarely in the House, Ryan and everyone undercut him and us at every opportunity—Same in the Senate. How many years did we hear and see all these great stands until they had a chance to pass, then they came up short. Even Obamacare. Well, a judge is forcing their hand on that one and they have NOTHING ready, no replacement. The wall, Trump stood alone, now is defeated. Shame on Republicans. And, yes, shame on Trump for not taking a stand. He folded on this earlier when he should have stood, not harder to do so. I fear we’ve lost and we’ll see defeat after defeat over the next two years. Next time will be the same as last time. Many of us pointed that out previously. A sad, discomforting ‘I told you so.’


47 posted on 12/18/2018 8:08:45 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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THIS is from Washington Post...

I’ll believe it IF I hear it from the President


48 posted on 12/18/2018 8:11:56 AM PST by Guenevere
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The Dems simply don’t care about securing the border.


53 posted on 12/18/2018 8:13:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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So a week ago Trump didn’t know that he would go elsewhere for the money if he couldn’t get it through Congress? I am absolutely baffled why he would be threatening to shut down and then not follow through with it..


55 posted on 12/18/2018 8:13:43 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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Most of the difficulty Trump is having now can be traced back to the actions of just one man — Jeff Sessions. If there ever was a vile, cowardly little man...


60 posted on 12/18/2018 8:15:01 AM PST by odawg
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Help me to understand! Why do we need Democratic votes this year. Don’t we have the majority of votes?? Next year, no! This year, yes??


61 posted on 12/18/2018 8:15:15 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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70 posted on 12/18/2018 8:20:34 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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If the government shuts down over 900,000 swamp critters will go without pay...


85 posted on 12/18/2018 8:29:37 AM PST by GOPJ (TERM LIMIT DC SWAMP BUREAUCRATS - a permanent un-elected ruling class is a threat to freedom.)
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Navy Seabees, Can Do! We Build, We Fight, and we can build a WALL!


95 posted on 12/18/2018 8:36:14 AM PST by wetgundog (CNN is FAKE NEWS ...Just added NBC.)
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So the $5B is off the table but he still gets $1.3B, right? Previously the dems had agreed to a House bill approach that included $1.3B for the wall.

If this means there is zero funding for the wall that would be troubling.


116 posted on 12/18/2018 8:51:47 AM PST by plain talk
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Y U G O S L A V I A will seem like a lovely picnic when scales finally tipped.


135 posted on 12/18/2018 9:16:23 AM PST by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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Well looks like Trump is a one term president.


137 posted on 12/18/2018 9:18:40 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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..... This, coupled with the economy being scuttled before the end of the year puts The Donald’s plan for a second term in office in serious Jeopardy.


140 posted on 12/18/2018 9:26:43 AM PST by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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Better keep doors locked going to get worse.


142 posted on 12/18/2018 9:28:33 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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BULL!!!! I am not going to be a happy camper if Trump blocks down.

I guess I chose a good time to move to Idaho.


146 posted on 12/18/2018 9:43:31 AM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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Oh Captain, my Captain ..


147 posted on 12/18/2018 9:44:02 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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In exchange for dropping the wall the Democrats agreed give more tax breaks to the corporate C of C boys(and of course to themselves). Just my guess.


149 posted on 12/18/2018 10:00:35 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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Definitely not the same man we knew at the March For Justice... Probably too many years of being a butt-buddy...


154 posted on 12/18/2018 10:41:28 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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This could be a maneuver, a negotiating “dangle”.


171 posted on 12/18/2018 10:58:45 AM PST by Reily
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