Posted on 12/11/2018 5:56:43 PM PST by HotKat
The Vatican under the direction of Pope Francis will soon change the verbiage in the Lords Prayer to clarify God does not, in fact, tempt people.
The pope has taken issue with the phrase, Lead us not into temptation, one stanza of the Lords Prayer found in Matthew 6:9-13.
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The pope has taken issue with the phrase, Lead us not into temptation, one stanza of the Lords Prayer found in Matthew 6:9-13.
According to the Daily Express, experts have been studying the biblical text for 16 years and recently concluded, from a theological, pastoral and stylistic viewpoint, the centuries-old wording used in English translations of the Bible is incorrect.
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Rather than translating the line as, Lead us not into temptation, the researchers found, the passage should read, Abandon us not when in temptation.
The shift in language comes one year after the pontiff argued the wording is not a good translation.
A father doesnt do that, a father helps you to get up immediately, Francis said of the line in question. Its Satan who leads us into temptation, thats his department.
For years, Christians have struggled to understand the actual meaning behind those words in the Lords Prayer.
IS IT RIGHT TO CHANGE THE WORDING? The late theologian Charles Spurgeon explained during a sermon in 1863 that the word temptation in the New Testament passage actually holds two meanings, both the actual temptation toward sin and the facing of trials.
While Spurgeon made clear God does not tempt us, he does make the case God will often send us into trials and situations in which temptation toward sin is all but guaranteed.
God tempts no man, Spurgeon said. For God to tempt in the sense of enticing to sin [is] inconsistent with his nature, and altogether contrary to his known character; but for God to lead us into those conflicts with evil which we call temptations, is not only possible but usual.
Meh, think I’ll wait and see what the next Pope thinks.
Doesnt he have better things to do?
Couldn’t he go convert some non-believers or something useful?
I never misinterpreted it to mean that God tempts us. The thought had never crossed my mind until now. Because I understand the concept of context. But I guess some people just don’t get it.
No tinkering needed. Thanks.
Once that starts, it will never end.
Gigantic facepalm.
Ezekiel 12:2 1 The word of the LORD also came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.
Those of us with “eyes that see” have always interpreted it as “keep us from temptation”, not “don’t tempt us”.
How does it feel to be frogs?
Just more proof this ‘pope’ is an illiterate idiot.
It might be one of those jokey lines, like “Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof,” and Jesus comparing his word with manure in one of the fig tree parables.
Surely God does not tempt man. Leave that to the FBI.
Message from the Lord to anyone who starts having doubts when things get rough: “I have never hurt you.”
His reasoning is right on, but to change the wording after all these years, it will be a tough sell.
Jorge the Humble strikes again. “Lead Us Not Into Temptation” is the literal accurate translation from the Latin and the Greek. It’s been use for nearly two thousand freakin’ years without complaint, but Jorge knows he can improve it. So humble!
Jesus knows better than the fake pope
He has Old Timer's
I wonder if God finds this guy amusing?
agreed- as a practicing Catholic this is the first time i haven’t vehemently disagreed or opposed this guy...that said I will still be saying the Our Father for our President every night the way i’ve recited the prayer the past 50+ years...
WOW
This ‘Pope’ has issues with the words of Jesus Christ ?!!
A father doesnt do that, a father helps you to get up immediately, Francis said of the line in question.
Since he's taking it literally so then does that mean he thinks that God abandons us when we sin?
This is why expository preaching is ideal. A pastor needs to teach what the text means and use the original Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew. You can add personal touches and outside sources but it is the pastor’s job to educate and guide his flock to the one correct teaching.
The Greek word translated as "temptation," peirasmos, could also mean "trial," as in putting someone to the test. So perhaps it could be read as a request that God not put us to the test (so we don't have a chance of failing the test). If God had not told Adam and Eve not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they wouldn't have been kicked out of paradise.
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