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change the verbiage in the Lord’s Prayer to clarify God does not, in fact, tempt people.

The pope has taken issue with the phrase, “Lead us not into temptation,” one stanza of the Lord’s Prayer found in Matthew 6:9-13.

According to the Daily Express, experts have been studying the biblical text for 16 years and recently concluded, “from a theological, pastoral and stylistic viewpoint,” the centuries-old wording used in English translations of the Bible is incorrect.

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Rather than translating the line as, “Lead us not into temptation,” the researchers found, the passage should read, “Abandon us not when in temptation.”

The shift in language comes one year after the pontiff argued the wording is “not a good translation.”

“A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately,” Francis said of the line in question. “It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”

For years, Christians have struggled to understand the actual meaning behind those words in the Lord’s Prayer.

IS IT RIGHT TO CHANGE THE WORDING? The late theologian Charles Spurgeon explained during a sermon in 1863 that the word “temptation” in the New Testament passage actually holds two meanings, both the actual temptation toward sin and the facing of trials.

While Spurgeon made clear God does not tempt us, he does make the case God will often send us into trials and situations in which temptation toward sin is all but guaranteed.

“God tempts no man,” Spurgeon said. “For God to tempt in the sense of enticing to sin [is] inconsistent with his nature, and altogether contrary to his known character; but for God to lead us into those conflicts with evil which we call temptations, is not only possible but usual.”

1 posted on 12/11/2018 5:56:43 PM PST by HotKat
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To: HotKat

Meh, think I’ll wait and see what the next Pope thinks.


2 posted on 12/11/2018 5:58:48 PM PST by gaijin
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To: HotKat

Doesn’t he have better things to do?


3 posted on 12/11/2018 5:59:03 PM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: HotKat

Couldn’t he go convert some non-believers or something useful?


4 posted on 12/11/2018 6:00:16 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: HotKat

I never misinterpreted it to mean that God tempts us. The thought had never crossed my mind until now. Because I understand the concept of context. But I guess some people just don’t get it.


5 posted on 12/11/2018 6:01:32 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: HotKat

No tinkering needed. Thanks.
Once that starts, it will never end.


6 posted on 12/11/2018 6:03:09 PM PST by lee martell (AT)
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To: HotKat

Gigantic facepalm.

Ezekiel 12:2 1 The word of the LORD also came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.

Those of us with “eyes that see” have always interpreted it as “keep us from temptation”, not “don’t tempt us”.


7 posted on 12/11/2018 6:03:42 PM PST by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: HotKat

Just more proof this ‘pope’ is an illiterate idiot.


9 posted on 12/11/2018 6:03:57 PM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: HotKat

It might be one of those jokey lines, like “Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof,” and Jesus comparing his word with manure in one of the fig tree parables.

Surely God does not tempt man. Leave that to the FBI.

Message from the Lord to anyone who starts having doubts when things get rough: “I have never hurt you.”


10 posted on 12/11/2018 6:06:00 PM PST by firebrand (Apropos line I heard recently. So obviously true.)
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To: HotKat

Jorge the Humble strikes again. “Lead Us Not Into Temptation” is the literal accurate translation from the Latin and the Greek. It’s been use for nearly two thousand freakin’ years without complaint, but Jorge knows he can improve it. So humble!


12 posted on 12/11/2018 6:14:16 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: HotKat

I wonder if God finds this guy amusing?


15 posted on 12/11/2018 6:15:42 PM PST by Professional
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WOW
This ‘Pope’ has issues with the words of Jesus Christ ?!!


17 posted on 12/11/2018 6:18:26 PM PST by A strike (Import Third World become Third World)
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To: HotKat
Rather than translating the line as, “Lead us not into temptation,” the researchers found, the passage should read, “Abandon us not when in temptation.”

“A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately,” Francis said of the line in question.

Since he's taking it literally so then does that mean he thinks that God abandons us when we sin?

18 posted on 12/11/2018 6:18:27 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: HotKat

It’s been wrong for four hundred years and no one noticed?


21 posted on 12/11/2018 6:24:16 PM PST by Chuckster (Battlestar Galactica is not fiction)
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Pope Francis Enacting Change to Lord’s Prayer: ‘Lead Us Not Into Temptation’.

That’s going to go over like a fart in church. Forget it, Pope Frankie.


22 posted on 12/11/2018 6:24:53 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: HotKat

God gave us free will.

That he provided temptations for us to either do good or go the evil way, is what that phrase means: “lead us not into temptation”. He provided the temptations, and also gave us free will for us to make the proper decisions.


23 posted on 12/11/2018 6:26:17 PM PST by adorno
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He can change it all he wants. I’m 71, and will continue to say it the way I learned it. Hasn’t done me any damage all these years. If it ain’t broke...don’t fix it.


24 posted on 12/11/2018 6:26:55 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: HotKat

For once I agree with this man. But I’ll not change how I say the prayer.


25 posted on 12/11/2018 6:32:38 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: HotKat

Fenton translation has them all beat by about a hundred years:

“And forgive us our faults, as we forgive those offending us, for You would not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”


31 posted on 12/11/2018 6:44:26 PM PST by odawg
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To: ebb tide

Something is very wrong on your Vatican, FRiend


33 posted on 12/11/2018 6:49:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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"Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil." Matthew 4:1

"And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, Being forty days tempted of the devil. . . ." Luke 4:1, 2.

35 posted on 12/11/2018 6:52:01 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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