Posted on 11/30/2018 7:03:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
“I think it’s time to face reality and just give that up.”
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If that’s the rationale at play we’d have to “give up” on stopping a plethora of evils.
The author is blatantly lying about the study in order to justify his own conclusions. His extrapolations are not supported by the study text.
Life is the gateway. We should kill all the people to avoid pot use, because that’s the most important thing in the universe.
Stop pot: Kill everyone!
Your point is valid — if we just “give up” then we get anarchy and anything goes. I would not be happy with that.
On the other hand, I think the role of government is primarily to protect my rights. What we have today is an intrusive government that watches me closely and is prepared to swoop in and punish me anytime I make a wrong step regarding any of their 6 trillion laws.
We may disagree about the details, but I think anyone on this board should support the concept that government should “give up” on stopping at least some of the stuff which is now considered “evil”.
Why do politicians advocate for this? It is simple-— NONE of them have ever worked a day in their lives, and it is sooooooo simple to come up with tax money from “sins” of victimized marketed addictive products. The taxes from which line the pockets of the criminal political class of useless (t@rds)... like John....”rasta man” Boehner— a bigger a@@hole in DC cannot be found (a bar owning golf caddie commode hugging drunk, and his daughter married to a jamaican ganja posse gangster-— that should help his being head “lobbyist” for Cannabis, Inc.). The entire line of BS from these people disgusts me. The lives RUINED for their political and personal profit.
But.... do love Single Malt, as an ambrosia, not a daily escape from responsibility, and numbing of true human emotion and caring.
Agreed. I know almost no one whose life was made better by using marijuana - a small number of people with glaucoma, going through chemotherapy, or facing similar medical issues. No one I know who used pot for purely recreational purposes ended up better off because of their chosen form of relaxation.
The question is not whether pot is a good idea - it’s not. The question is whether we should prohibit that bad decision or in some manner legalize it (perhaps for 18+ or 21+). I have mixed feelings on that question. As a parent, I want my kids protected from easy opportunities to make that stupid a choice. As a conservative, I’m reluctant to restrict bad decisions by adults. We allow adults to vote for democrats or even socialists/communists (and there is no longer much difference). Why not let them do something far less harmful - like using pot or even heroin/Fentanyl?
And alcohol is dangerous, a poison in fact.
The user I know had no drive and no want for self improvement. Sloth and laziness is a gateway of is own. And now they want to make it legal nationwide
My question has always been is pot a gateway drug because it’s illegal, and puts users in contact with users and sellers of other illegal drugs, in which case legalizing it could make it less a gateway drug, or is getting high, itself, the gateway, in which case, beer is a gateway drug?
“Alcohol is MUCH MORE a gateway drug than weed”
I DON’T agree.
Pot, alcohol and tobacco are dangerous and unhealthy and should be illegal.
Good luck.
and the charge that if you oppose pot you MUST be for prohibition of booze....
The simple fact is that our culture does NOT need to encourage one more poison.
Gateway? Sorry but the fence only holds a loser that is going to get out one way or the other. MJ may be bad for some but its benefits far outweigh the risks.
Several have said here “inclination” and “personality”. FRiend it is positively ID’d by seriously excellent genomic mapping— it is genetically triggered. Gene maps have shown the genetic markers in people who are “susceptible” to the chemical triggers of external agents... THC, opium, booze-—. So, what should be done— call these people “patients” and remove them from society— or raise our insurance rates for the destruction caused by these “inclinations”— to families, public transportation etc., and sit idly by while the highly disciplined directed and non-stoned power people control the rest of us with it?
A quick look at the historical relationship between ancient Inca royalty and their cocaine slaves (whom they starved to death, feeding them only cocaina leaves and limerock to chew the leaves and release the cocaine).... comes to mind. Do we join the elite class of taxing “controllers”?
Long ago— remember Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY Senator)? He wrote a book.... totally ignored by the leftist self indulgent corruptocrats.
Never liked his general politics— but he was dead on correct about the “dumbing down” of our culture.
S.I. Hayakawa (HI) on a similar topic— English only— and proper English at that.
I’m not into so much “punishing” druggies (their dealers, yes) as I am into mandatory drug abuse treatment at their own expense - unless they are your generic run of the mill poverty stricken street druggies (charity cases).
“The simple fact is that our culture does NOT need to encourage one more poison.”
Why should we encourage ANY poisons?
And what is humourously described nowadays as “soy boy” and “man-tits” Baby Huey shaped fat a@@ oreo eating (and whole lot else) stoner layabouts— looking for another high.
Life is too short— at lease individually— to have to deal with these slugs, and more precisely— pay for their crapola. Avoid them like the Plague.
“Alcohol is MUCH MORE a gateway drug than weed.”
They’re different, with different physiological affects/triggers. Some get addicted to booze. The great majority do not.
Booze, to me, is ‘gateway’ in that while on ot, inhibitions are reduced, and poor decisions often follow: “Hold my beer and watch this!”
“Oh, let’s go to your place.” or “Lemme try some of that chit.”
Pot, otoh, generally lessens IQ. Been observing that in many others for 45 years, noted it in myself during college studying.
“Alcohol is MUCH MORE a gateway drug than weed”
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“I DON’T agree.”
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Abuse in the alcohol realm means a persons goes from drinking booze to drinking more booze. In the drug realm abuse is factored differently in that a person goes from one substance on to other substances where each one is worse than the one before.
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