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1 posted on 11/12/2018 8:55:09 AM PST by Kaslin
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During the 2000 Florida fiasco, there were allegedly more votes for Pat Buchanan than there should have been. Supposedly, a lot of voters thought they were voting for Gore due to a confused ballot layout. It never ends.


2 posted on 11/12/2018 8:58:49 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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It looks VERY #$##ing obvious to me where to vote for senator.

Is the FL average IQ hovering around 75??

I didn’t think so.

It’s NOT POSSIBLE that I would NOT notice that I didn’t vote for senator.

So #$@## this nonsnese.

In fact, this is the first time I saw this sheet and I thought before that MAYBE it was possible to miss it.

It’s RIGHT THERE OUT IN THE OPEN!!!


3 posted on 11/12/2018 8:58:52 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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Who designed the ballot? Oh let me think, it was the supervisor of elections in that county.


4 posted on 11/12/2018 8:59:46 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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Not the old “Butterfly Ballot, I thought I voted for David Duke” sh*t again!


5 posted on 11/12/2018 8:59:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Stupid conclusions/inferences.
Interesting article.
There is NO SUCH THING as a perfect ballot design. And I left a number of races blank on my (Florida) ballot this November.


8 posted on 11/12/2018 9:05:24 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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None of what this man says makes any sense at all...

If you needed to read the instructions in another language, it would have led you straight to the choices for Senate. Anybody else would have had to be 90% blind to miss the Senate section. This guy is just trying to cause more trouble...probably a Never Trumper who hates Scott and DeSantis trying to get a spot on CNN...I can hear it now....”Even a Loyal Republican says ballot design was confusing”

Give me a break! If I were DeSantis, I would sign a law that says ballots will be printed only in English. If you want to live here and vote here, learn the English language!


10 posted on 11/12/2018 9:08:42 AM PST by MaxistheBest (...)
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Florida has real problems from design of ballot to counting. Why are these people SI incompetent?


18 posted on 11/12/2018 9:16:12 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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Their was a similar blog article on FR earlier. The Freeper contended that the ballot design would have resulted in the senate race receiving no-votes. But the Freeper contended that the design was intended to allow poll workers to supply a Dem vote later to be included in the recounts. It gave them legitimate ballots where recounts could be skewed.


20 posted on 11/12/2018 9:17:37 AM PST by the_Watchman
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Given the author’s second point was math, he or she could have at least done it honestly.

Let’s go with the 25,000 undervotes. 70% to Nelson is indeed 17,500 but ignores the 7,500 Scott would have gotten. Precinct level analysis could possibly yield a more precise answer (not going “there” in terms of which side of the electorate would be more apt to screw up) but in all likelihood Nelson would still have lost.


24 posted on 11/12/2018 9:22:31 AM PST by Methos8
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The writer is wrong on many counts...First off the ballot was six pages long both sides in many areas....There are exactly 30 cities in all of Broward County which is 1,323 sq miles of land and water.61.13% of the registered voters bothered to vote at all. Per SOE where I work.Besides the folks running for jobs there were 14 Constitutional changes and 12 County changes to its constitution all included on the ballot designed by the Supervisor of elections thats dumb. If all who voted did so thru a as200 ballot Scanner that amounts to 4,277,040 pieces of paper. Each Pct at close does a computer run n 2 copies 1 to driver who picks up the equipment and the second carried by the Clerk of the PCT is there private car with seals attached on all bags 4-8 bags per pct.....Well I shall enlighten you this election as of the last announcement 712,840 people voted in Broward County at six (6) pages both sides that amounts to 4 million,277 thousand and forty pages of ballot form....in a county of 1, 843,152 people.....of which 593,540 are registered democrats, 252 thousand and twenty three are registered Republicans and three hundred twenty eight thousand eight hundred and sixty eight no party affiliation,,,,,,,,the people count who voted were increased by close to 50% overall...AND YOU DO REALIZE THERE ARE 608 Polling Locations in Broward County....an all cites had questions on the ballotts that were for that city alone....so as you can see this is a huge undertaking....


28 posted on 11/12/2018 9:30:28 AM PST by straps (Learn the system before you condemn it Politicians)
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It is yet to be determined if the 24,992 “undervote” was a “machine calibration” issue which will be resolved in the recount or poor design is the culprit. However, I distinctly remember that nanosecond when I thought the ballot design was counterintuitive, and initially missed the Senate voting square. Thus, I believe 24,992 Broward voters could have been “disenfranchised” from voting for a U.S. Senate candidate and that I was almost one of them!

UNDERVOTE IS A B.S. TERM - YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO FILL OUT AN ENTIRE BALLOT!

29 posted on 11/12/2018 9:34:08 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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Does anyone else have questions about probability in regards to the razor-thin margins being reported? It doesn’t seem possible.


30 posted on 11/12/2018 9:39:30 AM PST by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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“because voting instructions in three languages”

OK, ENGLISH

SPANISH

????


33 posted on 11/12/2018 9:42:47 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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My chad is still hanging from the 2000 erection....errrrrr....election....


40 posted on 11/12/2018 9:50:15 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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The non-bullshit answer: they got pictures of us with boxes of votes taken from people’s cars, and then started auditing the vote. If they audit for duplicates and non citizens nationwide the democrats lose the house and the voters will become in a deportment dupporting mood.


41 posted on 11/12/2018 9:57:45 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Or, simply they made up ballots with just votes for governor.


50 posted on 11/12/2018 10:20:41 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!"to)
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First, it should be easy to test this theory. The House candidates are also listed in the bottom left corner, below the Senate candidates. If there is a similar "undervote" for the House race as there is argued to be for Senator, then that might strengthen the notion that people inadvertently skipped the bottom left corner of the page.

Second, the theory makes little sense on its face. There were fewer votes cast for Senator than for Governor. If everybody who voted for Governor also voted for Senator, I would expect a similar Rep vs Dem distribution for both races, given the current political polarization and the strong trend toward less and less ballot splitting. It's hard to imagine somebody voting for both DeSantis and Nelson, or for both Scott and Gillum. So if there was a lesser undervote for Senate it is probable that Scott would have a similar lead as DeSantis, i.e., larger than he currently has, not smaller or negative.

51 posted on 11/12/2018 10:23:35 AM PST by SFConservative
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Nothing wrong with that ballot. But if you’re too dumb to handle columnar data, maybe you’re too dumb to be voting on a more complex issue, eh? (not you personally, but the average south Florida voter)


53 posted on 11/12/2018 10:30:10 AM PST by Karma_Sherab
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only people that can’t speak English and mental incompetence would mess this up.. It’s quite obvious that the shill voter was trying to only vote for Governor..


60 posted on 11/12/2018 11:39:15 AM PST by tallyhoe
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if I had been in a rush, it is entirely plausible that I could have missed the senate voting square

What kind of GD idiot would forget about one of the two most important races on the ballot? Answer: Someone who should not be allowed to vote in the first place.

67 posted on 11/12/2018 5:15:26 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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