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Ranked-choice-voting-in-maine-may-affect
Reason ^ | Nov 7, 2018 | Scott Shackford

Posted on 11/08/2018 1:53:32 PM PST by KC Burke

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This is all getting stupid.

I followed this as this was a race Carville said the Democrats put their heart and soul into winning back.

Why can't we count the votes in six hours or less like in my first election?

Since the article was written it is now 95% of the vote tallied and only 2/3 of one percent difference and although the Pubbie leads, the dang thing will go into this ranikng choice thing. The two independents are former Republicans who cost the incumbent and outright win.

1 posted on 11/08/2018 1:53:32 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: LS

That race I commented on the other day in a post...


2 posted on 11/08/2018 1:54:14 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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Results page that updates as time goes on:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=US%20House%20Results%20for%20Maine&p1=%5BElection.pole_requery+state%3D%22ME%22+office%3D%22house%22%5D&form=ELPOLL&;


3 posted on 11/08/2018 1:55:02 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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In California they chose between two Democrats for US Senator because of this.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-senate-primary-election-20160607-snap-story.html

A Republican wasn’t even on the ballot. That’s 6.5 million Democrat votes that shouldn’t count in the “popular vote” count that the snowflakes have manufactured.


4 posted on 11/08/2018 1:59:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: KC Burke
Tasmania, Australia, has a system sort of like this. It make the determination of a winner extremely difficult and time consuming.

My impression was it hurt accountability.

I was not impressed.

5 posted on 11/08/2018 2:00:34 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Could be worse. Could be voting like Kalifornia’s jungle primary.


6 posted on 11/08/2018 2:06:54 PM PST by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in a dangerous Liberal world.)
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It is bullshit and if the Republican loses this will be going to the SC because it is unconstitutional.


7 posted on 11/08/2018 2:08:18 PM PST by cp124 (FUGOPe)
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It is bullshit and if the Republican loses this will be going to the SC because it is unconstitutional.

What about the process of ranked voting makes it unconstitutional?

8 posted on 11/08/2018 2:12:36 PM PST by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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The funny thing is that the stupid rank choice only applies to federal elections in Maine. The state and local elections don’t use it because it violates the state constitution.


9 posted on 11/08/2018 2:21:27 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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They seem to be trying to employ a parliamentary style election process to a US election. Of course, the Mainiacs have always been great Anglophiles and probably believe their patch of the US really belongs to Socialist Britain.


10 posted on 11/08/2018 2:30:15 PM PST by livius
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As I recall, the US Navy suffered it’s worst defeat in Maine, by the royal Navy


11 posted on 11/08/2018 2:33:47 PM PST by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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Isn't Maine one of only two states which allows incarcerated jailbirds to vote? The other, not surprisingly, is Vermont.

Here in PA (and most of the rest of the country), you only have to worry about your vote being cancelled out by a welfare queen who wants you to pay even more taxes, not somebody serving a life term for first degree murder.

Why is it that New England states want to send representives to DC to pee in the nation's water supply but will elect GOP governors to avoid peeing in their own?

12 posted on 11/08/2018 2:41:13 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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This promotes the increase in fringe parties. Libertarians, Greens, Conservative, Constitutional, Socialist and others will be able to say, vote for us and if we loose, your vote still goes to your second choice if no majority was achieved.

It also allows people to splinter the incumbent’s majority on purpose, as it did here.


13 posted on 11/08/2018 2:43:10 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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They may have had a bad battle there, I don’t recall it. I have vacationed there a couple of times and I love it.

If I won the lottery, I would buy a house on the banks of the Kennebec River.


14 posted on 11/08/2018 2:46:39 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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The American vote system can learn from the THIRD WORLD!


15 posted on 11/08/2018 2:50:41 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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The problem with rank voting is that, for very weird technical reasons, it can produce bizarre results. E.g., getting more votes can cost you the election.

There's an organization called fairvote.org that has been promoting it for years even though it doesn't work. I have heard two theories as to why they are still promoting it:

I followed the news from Maine when they were approving this crap. The people who wrote editorials for and against it were equally uninformed. Those who were for it could not explain why it was any good and were only vaguely familiar with what it was. Those who were against it were suspicious, but lacked the technical knowledge to explain why.

16 posted on 11/08/2018 3:08:33 PM PST by snarkpup
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I worked as the Warden, person in charge, of a ward in Ellsworth, Maine. I have been following rank choice since the issue started to be discussed. All I can stay that the strongest advocates for rank choice were and are hard core left wingers. The Republican Party of Maine should have spent time and money trying to defeat it. I don’t think the party did.


17 posted on 11/08/2018 3:14:09 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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That would reinforce theory #2 (above) that the promoters of this nonsense are trying to create chaos and make people lose faith in democracy.


18 posted on 11/08/2018 4:52:21 PM PST by snarkpup
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I like Bruce Poliquin, but he’s such a squish. Anyway I think in CD2, it went for Trump, Bruce might pull this out. It would be the one saving grace to a dreadful election here in Maine.


19 posted on 11/08/2018 4:59:44 PM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: snarkpup

Your observation is spot on.


20 posted on 11/08/2018 5:19:22 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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