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Calling Mohammed a Pedophile Not Covered by Free Speech, European Court Rules
CNS News ^ | October 26, 2018 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 10/26/2018 4:29:52 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

(CNSNews.com) – Europe’s top human rights court has ruled that comments about Mohammed having pedophilic tendencies are not covered by the right to freedom of expression, agreeing with the assessment of courts in Austria that the remarks constituted “an abusive attack on the Prophet of Islam which could stir up prejudice and threaten religious peace.”

A seven-judge European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) panel in Strasbourg concluded that the Austrian courts had “carefully balanced the applicant’s right to freedom of expression with the rights of others to have their religious feelings protected, and to have religious peace preserved in Austrian society.”

Thursday’s decision came nine years after Elizabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, an Austrian political scientist and activist, held a seminar in Vienna where among things she criticized the treatment of women in Islam. The topic of Mohammed’s marriage to Aisha, the youngest of his dozen wives and concubines, came up.

According to Islamic texts, the 7th century Arabian who founded Islam was betrothed to Aisha when she was six, and the marriage was consummated when she was nine.

The court record quotes Sabaditsch-Wolff as having said that Mohammed “liked to do it with children,” (other translations of the German comment render it “had a thing for little girls”) and saying, “A 56-year-old and a six-year-old? … What do we call it, if it is not pedophilia?”

In 2011, Sabaditsch-Wolff was convicted under Austria’s penal code for “denigrating the teachings of a legally recognized religion” and fined 480 euros (about $546), plus costs. She was acquitted on a charge of incitement.

Sabaditsch-Wolff appealed the decision, but a higher court in Austria upheld it.

In June 2012 the case was lodged with the ECHR, which hears allegations of breaches of the European Convention on Human Rights. Sabaditsch-Wolff complained her freedom of expression rights under the convention had been violated.

She said the Austrian courts had failed to address the substance of the statements in question, in the light of her right to freedom of expression.

If they had done so, Sabaditsch-Wolff argued, they would have qualified that as value judgments based on facts, rather than as mere value judgments.

The ECHR judges disagreed.

They said although people must tolerate the denial by others of their religious beliefs, in cases where comments are “likely to incite religious intolerance” a state might legitimately consider them to be “incompatible with respect for the freedom of thought, conscience and religion and take proportionate restrictive measures.”

The judges also said the subject matter “was of a particularly sensitive nature,” and that the authorities in Austria were “in a better position to evaluate which statements were likely to disturb the religious peace in their country.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; echr; eu; eucourtofhumanrights; eurabia; europe; europeanmuslims; eussr; hijrah; islam; jihadineurope; mahomet; mohammed; pedophilia; rop; sabaditschwolff; speechcodes
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To: Mr. Mojo

Oh, Man. So art that depicts Jesus being pissed on, or other degradation is also not covered?

This is pure BS. You let the comments play out in public. Someone wants to express themselves, let them do so.

So, how do they know if he was or wasn’t? Didn’t he have 8 to 10 year concubines?


41 posted on 10/26/2018 5:26:46 AM PDT by nikos1121 (With Trump, we have our own Age of Pericles)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Could these be the very judges who ignore Islamic
gang-rape of white girls and children FOR DECADES?

How many of these “judges” personally took part in
those reprehensible actions - and/or were further
bribed/threatened to cover it up?

Should they not share the responsibility?


42 posted on 10/26/2018 5:28:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Europe is due for their every 100 year collaspe into chaos.

You can do it! Just a few more nudges!


43 posted on 10/26/2018 5:30:26 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: sergeantdave
... clones of the rabid Nazi judge Roland Freisler who was hanged at Nuremberg.

I thought he died in an air raid. Not that it matters, he would have been hanged at Nuremburg.

44 posted on 10/26/2018 5:34:17 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: commish

Beat me to it! : )


45 posted on 10/26/2018 5:34:51 AM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: bramps

so by banning that the official state gangstamkint position is Islam is real...LOL rotfl, and must not be questioned..aww God blind


47 posted on 10/26/2018 5:35:12 AM PDT by aces
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To: Mr. Mojo

How about just acknowledging that Mohamed married a very young child and had sex with her?


48 posted on 10/26/2018 5:38:26 AM PDT by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: traderrob6

The lowest slave is free to agree with his master.


49 posted on 10/26/2018 5:39:44 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the DemocRats are all cats.)
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To: sergeantdave
European Court of Human Rights = clones of the rabid Nazi judge Roland Freisler who was hanged at Nuremberg.

I don’t think the POS even made it to Nuremberg. I think he was killed in an air raid on Feb 3, 1945.

50 posted on 10/26/2018 5:41:26 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ping jockey
You left out murderer, thief, robber, and liar. But, overall, a good job.
51 posted on 10/26/2018 5:41:51 AM PDT by sport
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To: Mr. Mojo

At least the Germans banned Scientology.


52 posted on 10/26/2018 5:42:48 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (The Paradigm has shifted...the New World Order is Trumpian.)
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To: ping jockey
Location of ping jockey provided upon request to any who wish to argue the point in person.

I doubt any of these gutless swine, would dare to discuss it with you in person. 😁

53 posted on 10/26/2018 5:46:54 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Elizabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, an Austrian political scientist

Elisabeth Sabaitsch Wolff coming to Boston to be at Israel Security Summit on September 9, 2014 ...


54 posted on 10/26/2018 5:48:53 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (The Paradigm has shifted...the New World Order is Trumpian.)
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To: Diogenesis

Judges who ban naming a Pedophile,
are accessories to Pedophilia.

UK has Pedophile Judges.


55 posted on 10/26/2018 5:53:57 AM PDT by TheNext (Anonymous Source)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The ruling is based upon a fiction. There is no peace under Islam. If they are not killing infidels they are killing other Moslems because they don’t fit their personal definition . The terror rate in Islamic countries is actually higher .


56 posted on 10/26/2018 5:58:01 AM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
The self-proclaimed Austrian “anti-jihad” and “anti-sharia activist” Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff appeared on June 21, 2013 at the Rayburn House Office Building in Washington, DC, at an event co-sponsored by the Center for Security Policy (CSP) and the Endowment for Middle East Truth (EMET). In introducing the event, CSP’s Christine Brim called people like Sabaditsch-Wolff the “defenders of freedom” in a “struggle…to preserve free speech” and “equality under the law.” Sabaditsch-Wolff's subsequent presentation of her courageous struggles in no way belied Brim's introduction.

Sabaditsch-Wolff discussed her own well-publicized ordeals and subsequent activism stemming from criticizing Islam, a faith described by her as a “religion of peace” that “is not really peaceful to those who speak the truth.” Daughter of a diplomat, she had already developed reservations about Islam during her childhood stay in Iran right before the 1978-1979 revolution. During her diplomatic tenure, postings to Kuwait encompassing the 1990 Iraq invasion and to Libya where she saw her landlord on September 11, 2001, blame the Jews for Al-Qaeda’s terrorist attacks that day only increased these concerns.

The controversy surrounding Sabaditsch-Wolff began with her comments before an October 2009 Vienna seminar of the rightwing Austrian Freedom Party (Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs or FPÖ). Discussing canonical accounts of Islam’s mid-50s prophet Muhammad consummating a marriage with a nine-year old Aisha, Sabaditsch-Wolff asked “what do you call” this “if not pedophilia?” Subsequently, Sabaditsch-Wolff received hate speech charges under Section 283 of the Austrian Criminal Code.

The trial found insufficient evidence for the Section 283 charge. Yet the judge's initiative brought a Section 188 charge against the denigration of recognized religions, resulting in a 480 Euro fine on February 15, 2011, later upheld. Thus Sabaditsch-Wolff concluded that under Europe’s various speech restrictions “you may not call a spade a spade” with respect to Islam.

This ordeal made Sabaditsch-Wolff devote herself to opposing Islamic totalitarianism, with her main “playground” the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). This 1975-founded non-treaty organization “many people have never heard of” contains 57 states, including the United States and Canada, formulating various legally non-binding agreements in the areas of security, economics, and human rights.

Here Sabaditsch-Wolff focuses on the OSCE’s Human Dimension covering human rights, in particular the Warsaw-based Office of Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR).

Sabaditsch-Wolff described the OSCE as a “significant source” for developing hate speech laws in OSCE countries and the world

More here: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/195601/undaunted-elisabeth-sabaditsch-wolffs-fight-free-andrew-harrod

OH Wow...another NGA (Non Governmental Agency) that Trump needs to get the USA out off.

57 posted on 10/26/2018 5:58:12 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (The Paradigm has shifted...the New World Order is Trumpian.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

If I mail fake bombs to embarrass Trump, am I protected by “freedom of expression”?


58 posted on 10/26/2018 5:58:12 AM PDT by Does so (If Trump Colluded with Russians, Why Did Hillary Win The Popular Vote?)
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To: Nateman

If the last two people on earth were muslim, one would kill the other for not being muslim enough.


59 posted on 10/26/2018 6:04:41 AM PDT by null and void (Don't argue with the keyboard warriors. They know their delusions better than you.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

60 posted on 10/26/2018 6:04:45 AM PDT by Sarcasm Factory
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