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Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence
NYTimes ^ | 21 Oct 2018 | Erica L. Green, Katie Benner and Robert Pear

Posted on 10/21/2018 6:49:56 AM PDT by blueplum

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

... the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times. The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female....

The definition is integral to two proposed rules currently under review at the White House: One from the Education Department deals with complaints of sex discrimination at schools and colleges receiving federal financial assistance; the other, from health and human services, deals with health programs and activities that receive federal funds or subsidies. Both regulations are expected to be released this fall, and would then be open for public comment, typically for 60 days.

...Civil rights groups have been meeting with federal officials in recent weeks to argue against the proposed definition....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biologicalidentity; fakenews; homosexualagenda; lgbt; newyorkslimes; nyslimes; nyslimesfakenews; perverts; specialinterests; subsidies; terf; titleix; transgender
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To: EdnaMode

Yes but they are causing the overreaction that will look bad. What TG opponents should be saying is that TG exists in the same manner as bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and chronic depression. It is a personality disorder , a mental illness. It should not be mocked but neither should the state require all to accept TG and treat TG people with deference and acceptance


61 posted on 10/21/2018 8:44:16 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: EdnaMode

You are not trans, you are a homosexual. It is not a happy place for most torn between those feelings but with Freudian mental counseling they can be cured or declared simply homosexuals. Legal requirements for homosexuals might preclude them from being a Priest, pastor, or the Pope, and keep the gay men out of public restrooms via lottering.


62 posted on 10/21/2018 8:44:18 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: kiryandil

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

This is absolutely brilliant! And it drives libs nuts !


63 posted on 10/21/2018 8:47:10 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: Liz

Sounds like it’s time to scrap Title IX now.


64 posted on 10/21/2018 8:49:48 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Chode

...that’s the hill RATS want to doe on?

Doe- a deer, a female deer...(XX)


65 posted on 10/21/2018 8:52:34 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: rktman

BEST idea——get rid of the leftie stuff.


66 posted on 10/21/2018 8:52:35 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: kiryandil

Love your treasure trove of lefty sickos....just love it.

Wouldnt he be cute in a pink pussy hat?

67 posted on 10/21/2018 8:56:36 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: MortMan
Gender should be assigned by genitalia and chromosomes at birth.

Historically, gender has always been a physical designation. It's the Democrats who redefined it a as psychological trait.

68 posted on 10/21/2018 9:08:00 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . ")
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To: blueplum

I doubt it will go so far as the story suggests, but we must acknowledge biology and distinguish between culture and fantasy.

Transgender is only a matter of degree removed from trans-dragon where we typically expect a bit of prosthesis, some reconstruction, . . . , and a fuel supply and ignition source.


69 posted on 10/21/2018 9:17:39 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: blueplum

I doubt it will go so far as the story suggests, but we must acknowledge biology and distinguish between culture and fantasy.

Transgender is only a matter of degree removed from trans-dragon where we typically expect a bit of prosthesis, some reconstruction, . . . , and a fuel supply and ignition source.


70 posted on 10/21/2018 9:18:24 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: aimhigh

Make a compromise. Agree to biological and social gender. Keep them straght.
One is permanent, not questioned
The other is between you, society and family around you, and if applicable to you, your God. And I don’t care really what you call yourself so long as I don’t have to or have my children brainwashed about it.


71 posted on 10/21/2018 9:21:29 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: blueplum

“The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.”

Stupid idea. Maybe one in 80,000 people https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/swyer-syndrome#statistics have genitalia that do not match their chromosomes, but they exist and are ruthlessly exploited by the Anything-Goes-Democrats. It’s better to define sex based on chromosomes as the only area where government has any interest at all in a person’s sex, with even that interest being extremely limited. Legislate government out of anything to do with the “gender” nonsense that it matters whether a person “identifies” as a boy, girl, puppy or houseplant. French, German, and Spanish nouns have gender, but people don’t.


72 posted on 10/21/2018 9:22:54 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: blueplum

“Any other category is just dress-up.”

My point. Call yourself a golden retriever named pickles. Regardless you are still either a male or female by sex, which cannot be changed under any circumstance. Want to be a boy this week and a daschund next week? Fine, but by sex you are either a male or female.


73 posted on 10/21/2018 9:34:55 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (EVERYONE IS UNIQUE! JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!)
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To: blueplum

XX= Female

XY= Male

It’s SCIENCE!


74 posted on 10/21/2018 9:55:13 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: blueplum

Transgender doesn’t exist, sounds like some sanity creeping in


75 posted on 10/21/2018 10:23:25 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: blueplum
"Transgenderism" was only defined into existence. It isn't real, and what is happening is that the kiddies are being told that make-believe playtime is over. They're not happy about it.

Those afflicted with sexual dysphoria need to be treated, not indulged. It isn't very many people but it is very real. The rest are welcome to play princess but not to demand that the rest of society validate it by playing along.

76 posted on 10/21/2018 10:30:01 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: blueplum

We need to stop saying “gender” (a primarily linguistic term) when we are referring to sex.

Sex is determined long before birth, at the moment of conception. Of course Libs want to deny any significance to conception.


77 posted on 10/21/2018 10:36:51 AM PDT by motor_racer (If you don't read the news, you are uninformed. If you read the news, you are misinformed.)
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To: JudyinCanada
...(there’s no such thing) …

There are mutilated men and mutilated women.

78 posted on 10/21/2018 12:46:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jumper
You are not trans, you are a homosexual.


  

A BIBLICAL Message to LGBT folks EVERYWHERE!



 
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 
 


Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
 
 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 


2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.

79 posted on 10/21/2018 12:49:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aimhigh
It's the Democrats who redefined it a as psychological trait.

 

 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


80 posted on 10/21/2018 12:51:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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