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Don't Look for Civility Unless Democrats Win in November (Don't expect Civility from the Dems!!!)
Townhall.com ^ | October 12, 2018 | Michael Barone

Posted on 10/12/2018 2:01:33 AM PDT by Kaslin

"You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about," Hillary Clinton told CNN last Tuesday. Her words cannot be taken literally, for you can be civil if you want to; they're a statement that she doesn't want to.

That's the bad news; the good news is that she laid out the terms and conditions under which civility will be appropriate again. "(I)f we are fortunate enough to win back the House and/or the Senate," she went on, "that's when civility can start again."

Easy. Just let Democrats win the elections, and then Republican senators and their wives can eat dinner in restaurants without being forced out by jeering crowds. Republican members of Congress can rest in peace at night, knowing that their addresses and phone numbers won't be doxed and crowds won't gather to attack.

Asked if Democrats should stop behaving this way now, Hawaii Sen. Mazie Hirono blandly replied, "this is what happens." So much for the aloha spirit. Doesn't apply, apparently, if you favor restrictions on abortions.

A Republican senator out raking leaves can be attacked by an angry Democratic neighbor and left with multiple ribs broken. The House Republican baseball team cannot relax in the knowledge that a Bernie Sanders bro can start spraying gunfire over their practice field.

When I was writing the first edition of The Almanac of American Politics, 40-some years ago, it was common for members of Congress to list their Washington, D.C., addresses in the Congressional Directory. If you could have found one of those cumbersome earlier copies, you could have printed a four-page table showing the whole bunch of them.

You can tell that Democrats are a little embarrassed by Party leaders' nondenunciation of violence and intimidation -- assault and battery in criminal law. That's because their CNN reporter political allies have been bristling when the howling protesters against Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation are called a "mob." That's a term apparently reserved for Republican protesters, no matter how many decibels the invited guests of Democratic members emit in the Senate gallery.

Democrats might reasonably reply that Donald Trump offered to pay legal costs for a MAGA enthusiast accused of beating up Democrats, and that Hillary Clinton rebuked him sharply and rightfully for refusing in advance to accept the results of the election. Liberals pride themselves on being tolerant and see themselves as political milquetoasts. But when they're losing, they are at least as nasty and violent as they have sometimes accurately accused Trump and his followers of being.

For some voters, at least, this is not a good look. Recent polls show Republicans gaining in some close Senate races -- ABC-OH Predictive Insights in Arizona, NBC News-Marist College in Nevada, and New York Times Upshot-Siena College and CBS-YouGov in Tennessee and Texas.

The cumulative effect is indicated by the fact that, for the first time in months, Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight website gives Republicans a better chance (22 percent) of maintaining its majority in the House than the Democrats' chance (19 percent) of winning a majority in the Senate. Both are a bit below the 29 percent chance of winning the website gave Donald Trump just before the 2016 election.

Many, though not all, post-Kavanaugh confirmation polls show enthusiasm about voting increasing among Republican voters, for the first time this cycle, to the level as among Democrats. That's important, since off-year turnout is variable and Democrats' advantage has been clear in special elections as well as polls. If that's maintained, Republicans' chances of holding their Senate majority is good: Nine of the 10 states with the closest Senate races were carried by Trump back then.

In House contests, many eyes have been fastened on upscale (high income/high education) districts where Trump ran significantly behind earlier Republicans and Clinton ran significantly ahead of earlier Democrats. But they're less than half the 68 seats rated as tossups or leaning to one party by the Cook Political Report or the 69 in the Washington Post's survey of battleground House districts.

The New York Times Upshot-Siena College surveys of 40 House districts have shown Republicans ahead by 2 points or more in 18 polls, Democrats similarly ahead in 12, and a tie or a 1 point lead for one party in 10 polls. "Democrats," The Times' Nate Cohn tweeted Oct. 7, "have put a long list of Republican-leaning districts into play. But it's not clear whether they actually lead in a lot of them."

So it's possible, though unlikely, Democrats could fall short in both houses. In which case I guess we can't hope for any civility from Hillary Clinton.


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To: Kaslin

Dems civility after winning: “We won. You lost. Go to hell.”


21 posted on 10/12/2018 4:05:30 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: trebb

It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!

Let them be uncivil. Better than living under their heavy hand.


22 posted on 10/12/2018 4:18:31 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Kaslin

So if the Democrats win, we should burn them down? That makes me uncomfortable.


23 posted on 10/12/2018 5:03:05 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: jiggyboy

Its fascinating how the totalitarianism of the left led by demagogues like Clinton and Holder is starting to resemble fascism movements, not communism

Fascism needs a new look and a new definition
Its no longer a movement of the far right, but now of the “progressive left”


24 posted on 10/12/2018 5:04:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Kaslin
You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about...

Funny, I feel exactly the same way. That is, it should now be obvious to anyone that the leftist/socialist controlled democratic party wants to destroy America and basically every ideal it was founded upon.

In America we used to be able to disagree and work through the political process. That is yet another thing about America that the leftist/socialist democrats are working hard to change. They don't want civil discourse, reasoned discussion. They want passions, emotions, things they can easily manipulate in a perpetual crisis-mode of breathless "...we've gotta do something, trust me I know what's best..." The leftists/socialists in the democratic party are showing their fascist underpinnings: you're either with us, with lemming-like support of everything in our agenda; or you're against us and must be destroyed.

This is their message. You might have heard almost the exact same message in 1930s Europe on a radio broadcast, in a speech in a town square, or read it in an newspaper or flyer. Think about it, and how that turned out.

25 posted on 10/12/2018 5:11:58 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Kaslin

But when they’re losing, they are at least as nasty and violent as they have sometimes accurately accused Trump and his followers of being.


Barone nearly undermines an otherwise pretty good piece with this sentence.


26 posted on 10/12/2018 5:17:55 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: silverleaf

I think that is because Facism is really about government force to enforce the status quo, whatever that is. When Communism is spreading, it opposes it. If the Commies are already in charge, it defends it.

It’s like when people ask, “What has happened to the Press or Hollywood? They used to support America.”

That was only when America was defending their precious Comminism. The Press and Hollywood have never changed.


27 posted on 10/12/2018 5:21:45 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: trebb

Just like Obama told John McCain in the oval office when McCain asked for consideration of Republican proposals, “I won”

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=obama+to+mccain+we+won&view=detail&mid=CA4D4611ACA3592BB89DCA4D4611ACA3592BB89D&FORM=VIRE


28 posted on 10/12/2018 5:26:12 AM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in a dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: Kaslin

The left is a wrecking crew attacking the pillars of our civilization. EVERYTHING they do is designed to collapse the system under the guise of improving it. Why should we be civil to a group that is trying to bring about a Communist revolution that will kill and enslave hundreds of millions of people?


29 posted on 10/12/2018 5:41:12 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Kaslin

Submit to us and there will be peace. Otherwise, we unleash Hell!

Gee, where have I heard that before?


30 posted on 10/12/2018 5:48:10 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ThunderSleeps

There is a phrase for a situation where you can’t openly show your political alignment.
It is “Domestic Terrorism.”


31 posted on 10/12/2018 5:57:17 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Kaslin

Nope. We are all about to experience a painful illustration of end-stage Alinskyism.


32 posted on 10/12/2018 5:59:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin
The DEMONcRATS idea of "civility" is to have their anarchist, fascist, rabid mob INTIMIDATE, KICK, MOLEST, DENEGRATE, SCREAM AT AND B E A T YOU until you S U B M I T to their perverse, communist ideology of SJW, PC hate, the destruction of the United States from within, the wholesale murder of the unborn and selling their body parts to the highest bidder, a "borderless amerikka" where CRIMINALS and ILLEGAL ALIENS have all of the "rights and privileges" and LAW-ABIDING American CITIZENS have NONE and are treated like third class peons, along with submission to their black-racist hatred of WHITE PEOPLE, God, and Western Civilization.

THAT is the DEMONcRATS idea of "civility".

GET OUT AND VOTE AGAINST EVERY DEMONcRAT CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT ON NOVEMBER 6th. BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY STAND FOR AND WHAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO IF THEY REGAIN POWER!

33 posted on 10/12/2018 6:15:27 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Kaslin

Why would you expect civility out of predators?


34 posted on 10/12/2018 6:47:37 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Liz; Grampa Dave

35 posted on 10/12/2018 6:51:58 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Kaslin

In other words, the Democrats are going to throw a tantrum unless they get their way. How childish.


36 posted on 10/12/2018 6:52:07 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Covenantor

she is downright evil, she can only lead her followers to hell.


37 posted on 10/12/2018 6:53:13 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Covenantor

Bkmrk


38 posted on 10/12/2018 6:53:20 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Kaslin

I can think of nothing more divisive, in our entire history as a nation except the Civil War itself, than this statement.

In a real, honest press, that statement would be condemned and ridiculed as anti-democratic at the least.

How partisan our press has become! Freedom of the press has become a hollow, empty place only inhabited by the most rough and obnoxious partisans of the Left!

It is a shameful statement, but the lack of reaction by our so-called Fourth Estate is even more sobering and harmful to the survival of our country.


39 posted on 10/12/2018 6:57:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Vote GOP this November. Take two friends to vote with you!)
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To: Liz

This crazy bee-ach has no problem destroying or down right killing her own minions if it suits her needs. Imagine what she would do to the rest of us if she had the chance.

Boy, did we ever dodge a bullet in Nov ‘16!


40 posted on 10/12/2018 6:58:35 AM PDT by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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