Posted on 10/10/2018 9:00:43 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
"Today felt very much like an update of the 1850s: Two very distinct parts of U.S. that no longer care to even fake that they respect or value the other," wrote Ron Brownstein.
But should the idea of the U.S. amicably breaking apart scare us? Maybe it should be welcomed and vigorously debated.
Michael Malice, the author of cultural commentarys, pointed out in a 2016 Observer article that the United States has "never been united culturally." Which made him question our determination to remain united politically.
"The real conundrum," he wrote, "is why two cultures should attempt to move forward as one unit when they are increasingly diverging in their world views -- and never had the same worldview to begin with."
(Malice posited this argument chiefly in terms of so-called urban elites looking down on "flyover country." "It's long past time to allow Kansans to live as they see fit, regardless of how wrongheaded they may sound -- instead of wondering 'What's the Matter with Kansas?' True, a house divided against itself cannot stand. But some houses don't need to remain standing at all."
Let's let Kansans be Kansans.
Keep in mind: Thanks in part to the "Great Compromise of 1787," the Founding Fathers set up the U.S. political system in such a way as to potentially frustrate the desires of the majority of the people and reward a resolute and united minority.
"The plan," the Washington Times wrote earlier this month, "is to convince 25 of the 31 Republican-held [state] legislatures to pass 'consent to secede' resolutions, then place the question before California voters in the form of a ballot measure, instead of vice versa."
Stated California secession campaigner Louis Marinelli: "We are going to rely on the deep hatred for California that exists in red America."
(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...
Better yet, persuade DiFi’s chinese benefactors to do it for us. Subcontracting is the way to go.
Of course when British India divided between India & Pakistan there were no problems at all, right. (Rhetorical question) Even an ‘amicable’ agreement to separate will have its problems.
I’d say his analysis of how states might go is wrong and that some states - like California might break apart, but the central idea is one we should discuss. We have two big tribes who do not get along. Rather than a hot or cold civil war, would we not be better off agreeing to peacefully split?
OF COURSE there would be a lot of thorny issues to resolve. I have no illusions about that. Still, it could be done as numerous examples around the world including the 13 colonies secession from the British Empire simply demonstrate. By the way, states do have that right and this was always envisioned by the Founders. Nobody at the time of ratification of the constitution said states did not have a right of unilateral secession.
The problem is Leftist ideology requires the total centralization of power. They can’t just live and let others live. They must dominate and control. At the end of the day, you have to go along or stand against them. There is no third way of just minding your own business and getting them to leave you alone. They won’t.
Ping.
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“Conviction by Accusation” is just one step short of “Conviction by Execution” -the privilege of all the uber tyrants of the 20th century.
The financiers of the liberal left fools in the USA know exactly what it is they’re gunning for. THEY WOULD divide us against one another.
And they’re only one SC Justice and 2 Senators shy of it
If the constant inflow of retirees from New York and New Jersey were cut off for 20 years, much of the problem in South Florida would die off.
When it comes to hating your opponent and not willing to compromise, no one can beat a democrat.
They were this way since Andrew Jackson.
They started a Civil War, got their asses beat, and ruined the South for 3 generations.
The past 2/3rds of my long life has seen them go deeper and deeper into their natural hating selves.
They cannot help but demonize their political opponents. Anyone who disagrees with them is not just someone who disagrees, but someone EVIL. Their emotional hatred cuts through all arguments and disputes, even mild ones.
And they truly hate all the good this country, “our” United States of America, has given to the world.
As one parent to another I strongly encourage you to get your kids out of those schools.
“A divide that defies unity” but every state including California is mixed. There are millions of conservatives here.
There are millions of conservatives here.
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For now. I know of some people in California who left for a new life in a more friendly state because of onerous taxes and insane politics. Many others have and are doing the same things. Yes, there are conservative areas in the state but overall the state is deteriorating.
Nah. Any secession hurts the whole country. There are a lot of conservatives in California. Do not give in to tyranny. Rather, repeal all the anti-constitutional laws in the states, by federal force if necessary.
Half the states oppose constitutional law and oppose states’ rights
A seceding state would have to take some of the debt with them. Prorata
USA would have to keep San Diego to have a Pacific port.
This is secession by permission of Congress. Approved by the state and congress
The left in New England has power has power over the country. 12 Senate seats. All libs.
The lefties in Ind, Tn, Ga don’t rule us
And that ain’t gonna happen
Ok. Only the 39 Dem house districts leave.
Then they are out of Congress
You’re right about the debt being prorated out, but that doesn’t help much when it comes to financing the military we need to remain effective, field adequate forces and the like.
We’re already facing a nation with roughly four to five times our numbers, and now it seems we could potentially see our number of citizens drop by a significant amount.
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