Posted on 10/07/2018 7:29:48 PM PDT by vannrox
You could say it was the beginning of a new United States of America… which hardly resembled the old structure.
It was the beginning of taxation without representation… The complete reversal of everything Americans fought for and achieved during the American Revolution.
It began the era of the American Empire. A centralized government, large enough to do whatever it wanted without restraint.
Too large for the people to control through representative democracy.
We still have a chance to be represented in state governments. But secession is a topic for another day…
This is one of those threads for the intellectual, patient reader type.
I’ll save it for later :)
Seems rather important.
But I have too much ADD to read it except when i’m very tired but still focused enough to understand what i’m reading :)
The solution?
A Convention of States.
Repeal the 17th amendment.
Two term limit (just like president) for all federal positions.
Repeal the 16th amendment and institute a national sales tax.
...and other stuff...
But too many people are terrified by the Article 5 provision of the Constitution.
It’s a Big Club...and you ain’t in it.
It is so good to see this being disseminated!!!
The way to restore the balance of power is to repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution and repeal the House Rule limiting the House of Representatives to 435. Please see my Federalist Letters to Corporate America for the detailed explanation of why and how to achieve this.
https://backyardfence.wordpress.com/federalist-letters-to-corporate-ameria/
Another Woodrow Wilson master plan?
What would be the current Senate breakdown (D/R) if the 17th Amendment did not exist?
Retarded. Giving me instead of a piece of crap politician my own vote for Senator means my vote doesn’t count?
Just imagine President Trump out of the stump “We need to give career politicians the ability to choose Senators behind closed doors. Drain the swamp?”
Yeah, NO.
most of what the federal govt does is NOT in the constitution. it has become an out of control monster — an octopus of corruption.
if the fed govt was put back in its box where it belongs there is no way it would cost trillions of dollars to run it. this is insane.
way past time for the peasants to rise up with torches and pitchforks.
Try this:
31 Republican-controlled legislatures
14 Democratic-controlled legislatures
4 Split legislatures
49 Total
bkmk
The weirdest example was Joe Miller running on "its horrible that the Alaska government gave the Governor's daughter a U.S. Senate seat, but things would be soooooo much better if they'd just repeal the 17th so she could have that seat for life without pesky elections in the way!"
That, and Rick Perry running a schizo platform of "its horrible that we amended the constitution so voters can choose the legislative branch instead of having politicians appoint them, but things would be AWESOME if we the amended the constitution so voters can choose the JUDICIAL branch instead of having politicians appoint them!
The weirdest example was Joe Miller running on "its horrible that the Alaska government gave the Governor's daughter a U.S. Senate seat, but things would be soooooo much better if they'd just repeal the 17th so she could have that seat for life without pesky elections in the way!"
That, and Rick Perry running a schizo platform of "its horrible that we amended the constitution so voters can choose the legislative branch instead of having politicians appoint them, but things would be AWESOME if we amended the constitution so voters can choose the JUDICIAL branch instead of having politicians appoint them!
“... We need to give career politicians the ability to choose Senators behind closed doors ....”
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In the current system, the candidates on your ballot are selected that way.
So a heap of money from a government employee union or a billionaire to a few members of a state assembly would surely buy all of the senatorial elections! What a magnificent evil plot! Big municipals would rule, and we’d have a total, permanent police state!
I now see more clearly how the proposition is so attractive to folks who are much more involved in politics than most of us.
Supposedly the last time 65% of eligible US voters voted in national elections was back in 1908, less for state and local. It hasn’t broken that since, a lot of them being below 55%. At least by any thing that I have seen.
Nobody really seems to care that millions and millions in campaign money is spent to convince the swayable to vote one way or the other, and we still haven’t broken 65% eligible voter turnout in 108 years. That is pretty amazing to me.
Freegards
Nope.
Nebraska has a unicameral (one chamber) Legislature
We, as Conservatives, like to say that the United States is a Republic. It is NOT. It changed from a Republic to a Democracy with the passage of both the 12th and the 17th Amendments.
The 16th Amendment converted free men into debt serfs.
Then the 19th Amendment diluted the voting power by a full 50%. Since me majority of females vote liberally, this greatly influenced the political balance of the Untied States.
The 23rd Amendment permits Washington D.C. swamp voting ability.
I would suggest that we start enforcing the 10th Amendment immediately. And then start abolishing all those progressive well-intentioned amendments that started to destry freedom and liberty.
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