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'First Man' flag kerfuffle is rocket fuel for our divided times
The Hill ^ | 09/03/18 | Christian Toto

Posted on 09/03/2018 7:03:41 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

When news broke that the upcoming Hollywood film about the moon landing leaves out the planting of an American flag in lunar soil (though it apparently shows the flag later), both sides of the ideological aisle instantly weighed in, each with compelling arguments. The film in question has only been seen by a select few, meaning the truth won’t be clear until its Oct. 12 release.

That didn’t stop Social Media Nation. (Does it ever?)

The problem began when Ryan Gosling, who stars as Neil Armstrong in director Damien Chazelle’s film, shared why we don’t see the astronaut planting an American flag on the moon. The moment “transcended countries and borders,” the actor told reporters in a pitch-perfect parody of PC speak.

“I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement [and] that's how we chose to view it,” he told reporters. "I also think Neil was extremely humble, as were many of these astronauts, and time and time again he deferred the focus from himself to the 400,000 people who made the mission possible.”

That served as a starter’s pistol for pundits. Conservatives railed against a Hollywood film downplaying America’s monumental space victory. Progressives fought back, saying artists can tell a story any way they please, and naysayers should actually see the movie before weighing in.

Both sides had a point.

Modern Hollywood has a spotty track record when it comes to patriotism. During the Iraq War, the industry cranked out a bevy of films undermining the war effort and those who pulled the levers in Washington.

The 2006 Man of Steel reboot, “Superman Returns,” removed the last two words from the character’s classic line, “Truth, justice and the American way.”

Is it a surprise a glossy film might downplay America’s gargantuan space achievement? Could the move be tied to fears that international audiences might recoil at the patriotic showing?

The latter drove some conservatives to distraction. Hollywood editors routinely tweak movies to appease Chinese government censors, eager to squeeze every last dollar from the international marketplace. Studios go so far as to add new footage for Chinese audiences, remove plot elements that could offend Chinese government officials, or add subplots that paint China in a positive light.

Ben Shapiro, editor in chief of The Daily Wire, offered the most cogent conservative critique of FlagGate: “The moon landing was always nationalist. It was nationalism in service of humanity. But that’s been America’s role in the world for generations. Removing the American flag from an American mission demonstrates the anti-American animus of Hollywood, if we’re to take their values-laden protestations seriously.”

The imbroglio also reminded conservatives how Hollywood plays fast and loose with reality to score partisan points. Take “Truth,” the 2015 drama that pretended CBS News’ Dan Rather didn’t promote fake news to rock the 2004 presidential election.

“First Man’s” liberal defenders roared back, saying critics can’t fully assess the movie until they see it in theaters. Others, like Marlow Stern of the liberal Daily Beast, saw the film and said the American flag gets its close-up in other, equally critical ways. He also attacked Sen. Marco Rubio for joining the “First Man” mob.

It’s a prime example of social media hot-takes lapping reality. The moment packed everything a culture warrior craves … except the full story.

The one person with egg on his face? Gosling. His tortured rationale for the flag-less sequence insulted a nation that sacrificed so much to make history. Not exactly the best way to promote your product stateside. That’s hardly new for actors, though. They often hit the promotional circuit and end up chasing away potential viewers.

Consider stars who say the ugliest comments about President Donald Trump while chatting with Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel. Actor Michael Shannon famously told a reporter that Trump’s voters are “ready for the urn” while promoting “Nocturnal Animals” in late 2016.

To paraphrase Michael Jordan’s mythical line, Republicans buy movie tickets, too.

Christian Bale called Moses “schizophrenic,” and director Ridley Scott compared the Biblical figure to modern terrorists while promoting their spiritual epic “Exodus: Gods and Kings.” The film flopped.

Another, less discussed element of FlagGate? In recent times actors swiftly apologize for offending progressive sensibilities. Scarlett Johansson fired herself as the star of “Rub and Tug,” a biopic of a trans entrepreneur, after the political left demanded a trans actor deserved the part, not her. “Our cultural understanding of transgender people continues to advance, and I’ve learned a lot from the community since making my first statement about my casting and realize it was insensitive,” the superstar actress said in a statement.

Amy Schumer agreed with far-left critics who said she shouldn’t have starred in her own 2018 movie, “I Feel Pretty,” saying a woman of color was a better choice for the role a marginalized heroine. (Schumer, a producer on the film, took the gig anyway.)

Yet, when FlagGate broke out, the film’s director and co-star, Damien Chazelle and Jason Clarke, vigorously rose to its defense.

Ultimately, artists should stand up for their work, no matter the partisan blowback and allow their art — and movie ticket sales — to fall where they may. If only the industry’s players could do just that when confronted by Chinese censors and social justice warriors.

Christian Toto is editor of the conservative entertainment site HollywoodInToto.com and host of the weekly Hollywood in Toto Podcast.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americaindecline; antiamericanism; culturewars; firstman; hollywood; hollywoodreds; liberalism; maninspace; revisionisthistory; spacerace
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The article contains many links to examples of Hollywood altering history and representing the United States in the worst terms.

1 posted on 09/03/2018 7:03:41 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
“I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement..."

By WHO?

2 posted on 09/03/2018 7:08:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: yesthatjallen

I’ll never forget my father’s gaze at the TV while the astronauts landed and soon planted the American flag. He was in awe, born early in the 20th century as cars replaced horses and buggies, watching our nation grow into the atomic and rocket age, and then a Moon landing. He passed a couple years later. This was an American achievement, and any movie recognizing the history of the Moon landing must also recognize it was an American achievement.

I will not spend any money on this film.


3 posted on 09/03/2018 7:16:34 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: yesthatjallen

The only people who’d characterize an overt national insult as a ‘kerfuffle’ are precisely the snowflake jagoffs aimed at by the purveyors of this revisionist bullsh!t.


4 posted on 09/03/2018 7:19:22 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: roadcat

I was 10 when we watched it.

Ryan whatshisname can go **** himself.

L


5 posted on 09/03/2018 7:23:19 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Click the Pic

6 posted on 09/03/2018 7:31:06 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: yesthatjallen

“Finally, if we are to win the battle that is now going on around the world between freedom and tyranny, the dramatic achievements in space which occurred in recent weeks should have made clear to us all, as did the Sputnik in 1957, the impact of this adventure on the minds of men everywhere, who are attempting to make a determination of which road they should take. Since early in my term, our efforts in space have been under review. With the advice of the Vice President, who is Chairman of the National Space Council, we have examined where we are strong and where we are not, where we may succeed and where we may not. Now it is time to take longer strides—time for a great new American enterprise—time for this nation to take a clearly leading role in space achievement, which in many ways may hold the key to our future on earth.”

—President John F. Kennedy, Speech to the Joint Session of Congress, March 25, 1961


7 posted on 09/03/2018 7:33:28 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: BenLurkin

An American achievement. It was the fruit of American money, engineering, manufacturing, organization, and ambition. What was Ghana’s contribution? Argentina? Bueller? Bueller?


8 posted on 09/03/2018 7:37:35 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Fiddlstix

I haven’t gone to the movies since 1999; and we walked out of that one less than halfway through.


9 posted on 09/03/2018 7:44:44 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630
The last movie I went to see in theater was the very first Star Wars movie. I took my kids and some friends to see it. That was back in the 70's.

10 posted on 09/03/2018 7:50:33 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: roadcat
Also reportedly presented Buzz Aldrin and an ambitious, obnoxious, and disliked person. Probably because they knew he was alive and would object to not showing the US Flag. He's already posted his response. I grew up in Eau Gallie Florida during the 60's, and my dad was a machinist who built tracking gear for the cape. Our next door neighbor was a designer who worked the crawler project. The Apollo 11 launch was on my brothers birthday. We thought he got the biggest candle ever. Watching the landing on TV, It was about America landing on the moon. I don't remember the UN being mentioned during the broadcast. The Russians were mentioned as being behind America in the space race. And lets not forget Mike Collins, who was the third astronaut on the flight, but stayed in lunar orbit.
Also Chaffee, White, and Grissom who died during the testing of Apollo 1.

Not all heroes survive the mission.
11 posted on 09/03/2018 7:53:22 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Fiddlstix

It’s a lot more fun, and cheaper, to buy/rent the ones you know you’ll like and watch at home. Even if something new comes out that we might like, it takes us years to get around to it ;-)


12 posted on 09/03/2018 7:55:17 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630
You Got That Right!


13 posted on 09/03/2018 8:02:37 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: yesthatjallen

American movies now make more $$$ overseas. We may never see an unabashedly pro-American movie in a theater again


14 posted on 09/03/2018 8:25:13 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: yesthatjallen

Just say NO to ‘First Man’!


15 posted on 09/03/2018 8:52:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I hope people do.

But most people are oblivious to the cultural rot and only see 'entertainment' so if it's well done people with high-end production will flock to it without considering the political message ignoring Americas' achievement.

16 posted on 09/03/2018 9:03:19 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
The problem began when Ryan Gosling, who stars as Neil Armstrong in director Damien Chazelle’s film, shared why we don’t see the astronaut planting an American flag on the moon. The moment “transcended countries and borders,” the actor told reporters in a pitch-perfect parody of PC speak.

Yeah, that's BS. We will not see Armstrong planting the American flag on the moon because Hollywood these days is making movies that they hope will appeal to Chinese audiences as much as they appeal to American audiences. The Chinese movie audience is vast, and even if a movie flops in the US, it could do well in China and turn a profit for the studios. They will do nothing that might offend Chinese authorities or audiences.
17 posted on 09/03/2018 9:15:55 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Army Air Corps
An American achievement. It was the fruit of American money, engineering, manufacturing, organization, and ambition. What was Ghana’s contribution? Argentina? Bueller? Bueller?

Aside from a few patches of ground leased to NASA by Australia, the Canary Islands and Spain (IIRC) for land-based tracking stations, the rest of the world watched *our* accomplishment.

Oh, speaking of those tracking stations - look for a movie called "The Dish" from around 2000-2001. Very enjoyable.

18 posted on 09/03/2018 9:32:19 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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Yes, I am aware of the tracking stations.


19 posted on 09/03/2018 9:35:35 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Charles Martel

Thanks for the film recommendation. I’ll look for it.


20 posted on 09/03/2018 9:40:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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