Posted on 09/02/2018 10:22:01 AM PDT by madprof98
What led the church to where it is today was unspeakable crimes and institutional cover-ups. At a moment when unqualified humility would seem the only possible response available to leaders of the Catholic faith, they instead choose to engage in the scurrilous scapegoating of innocent gay people. They demonstrate an unwillingness to accept full responsibility and a breathtaking absence of decency. Abuse in the church occurred not because of homosexuality but because church leaders created safe spaces for predators. Some of the abusers might have been gay. So what? Psychologists say pedophiles are sexually aroused not by gender but by youth, and homosexuality does not make people more likely to abuse others, as studies have shown. Some of the victims in Pennsylvania were girls.
When priests tell church members that homosexuality is a bar to Heaven, that's ultimately a spiritual matter the faithful must work out for themselves, but when church officials charge that homosexuality causes outrages in communities here on Earth, the discussion becomes a concern for believers and non-believers alike. Whether for spiritual or humane principles, the reaction from within and without the church must be to categorically reject such hateful messages.
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It appears that the Church has undergone a hostile takeover...and the hostiles have install their very own Pope.
It's going to be a real slog for the faithful in the Church to take it back.
It can be done, but it will be take an act of God.
Perhaps that is for the best.
Same thing for the U.S.A.
We faithful are rising up here too. And is does appear to be an act of God.
Yep, they can save the Moslems the time and effort and throw themselves off of the tall buildings. /following the logic of the left
I don't know of any other state that has dug more deeply into this perversity and published more info for the public.
The problem isn't just that the church of rome has homos everywhere.
It is that the leadership corruptly covered up abuse.
If the focus is only on homos, nothing will change.
As a non Catholic I probably shouldn’t editorialize, but I understand your argument about a priest being devoted to Jesus. but why do so many priests have difficulty keeping their zipper zipped?
The priests are 100% male. If none of the abuse was homosexual, the victims would be 0% male, 100% female.
Instead, the priests' victims were 81% male, 19% female, according to the John Jay Report.
THEREFORE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ABUSE WAS HOMOSEXUAL.
To avoid reaching this blatantly obvious conclusion, molester apologists babble about how most homosexuals are not pedophiles. They don't mention the "81% male victims" figure (it is not in the linked article), or that the vast majority of the Catholic abuse was not pedophilia, but hebephilia (~puberty to age 14) and ephebophilia (~ages 15-19). Male homosexual priests are typically attracted to early post-pubescent males, not to pre-pubescent children of both sexes.
Puberty now begins at age 9 or 10 in males:
https://www.webmd.com/children/news/20121020/earlier-puberty-age-9-10-average-us-boy#1
According to the John Jay Report, only 10.2% of victims were 8 years old or younger.
Facts are not homophobic. Objective reporting would precisely specify that the abuse scandal is one of male homosexual hebephilia and ephebophilia.
In order to discourage the abuse, you have to clearly identify the abusers. Molester apologists apparently want more abuse.
Pennsylvania did an amazing job, but there is no practical reason for not breaking down the sex of victims. The crime is sex abuse. Sex is fundamental to issue. Not only the act, but the sex of the victims. They have the data. It is an easy thing to include in the report. I would argue, it is a fundamental thing to include in the report.
There is no need to even mention the word homosexual, just state how many of the 1000 victims were male and how many were female. It couldn’t be easier.
Well the commies and fags were just starting to make their push into schools, churches, and Hollywood after WWII. So by 1954, they hadn’t made many in-roads. They sure had by the time they influenced the 1960s Hippies.
Maybe after 800 pages, they grew weary of documenting abuse...
B-b-but, that’s so gender BINARY!
Diehard Catholics venerate celibate clergy
They wont have that
They parse it
I heard Laura Ingraham and Raymond Arroyo claiming eastern rites were worse
I don’t have an answer for you other than to say we are all human and fall short in one way or another. There is nobody in or outside of the Church without sin.
I’m sure there are many lonely times, including nights, when some non-sexual companionship is sought after. Sometimes things do get out of control...
Not disagreeing with the concept that the RCCs problem is homosexuality, but as a female I had a priest ask me some embarrassing sexually explicit questions about my sins. I was a grown women so I could spot the perversion but I can easily see a priest questioning a teenage boy like this under the guise of assisting the examination of conscience.
why Not just own it and fix it gumdrop instead of parsing it
I think the world would be better off with a homosexual pederast corrupted clergy free Roman Catholic Church
And start with Francis
Ban homos
Purge these folks
Why did a good Pope Benedict really leave?
A very Godly and sensitive response. Believe me many so-called “protestants” have had failings in this area ie. Bakker, Swaggert, etc.
What? WHAT? Are these sodomites for real? Wake up homos. It's homosexual priests diddling young boys....PERIOD!
Good Lord deliver us from evil.
I am sorry you did not understand my posting. I was not parsing words, rather than facing the problem which needs to be rooted out of the church. I did not defend the church’s behavior at all.
My post clearly states that the problem was not ‘pedophilia” but homosexuals in the clergy, and up in senior positions in the church. If the news media continues to use the incorrect term, then it is a deliberate decision to avoid using the term Homosexuals. The news media are leftists, and homosexuals are a favored group to be defended. The news medial also do not like Christians of any denomination. They are enemies of Jesus Christ.
Their continued avoidance of the true nature of the problem by using the word pedophilia [which is universally detested], rather than the actual reality of the homosexual cabal within the RC clergy is calculated. If the news media uses the correct term, they would be attacking one of their favorite groups - of voters!!!!So they use ‘pedophilia’ as it raises more ire against a Christian church! Also, the refusal to state publicly the true nature of the problem will give an excuse to avoid cleaning the house of that sinful behavior.
Do NOT mistake my meaning. Both pedophilia [against little children under age 12] and sexual abuse against minor males [only a few were against females] or young seminarians who have no power against clerical superiors IS A CRIME AND AN ABOMINATION.
As for two adult priests deciding to have gay sex - it is a sin against God Almighty as clearly defined in the Bible. Therefore it is also a scandal But two adults are not committing a crime, only a very sinful scandal.
And, YES, it needs to be investigated and all the guilty clergy rooted out and replaced with godly men.
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