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N.C. panel votes to keep Confederate monuments, add context about slavery
The Hill ^ | 08/22/18 | Avery Anapol

Posted on 08/22/2018 9:53:43 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

The North Carolina Historical Commission voted Wednesday to keep three Confederate monuments on the grounds of the state Capitol building amid controversy about the statues’ future in the state.

The commission voted 10-1 not to remove the statues, but to add context about slavery and civil rights, according to the Associated Press. The commission also called for a monument to be built honoring African-Americans’ contributions to North Carolina.

The state commission’s vote came in response to Gov. Roy Cooper (D), who called for the three monuments to be removed from the Capitol grounds and preserved at a Civil War battlefield.

Confederate statues in the U.S. have been at the center of debate following the deadly “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Va., which erupted around the city’s plans to take down a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

The decision came just days after protesters toppled a Confederate statue on the campus of University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. The “Silent Sam” statue, which was erected in 1913, has been a source of contention on the campus.

According to North Carolina’s ABC11, there are more than 100 Confederate monuments, statues and memorials throughout the state. State law prohibits the removal of Confederate statues without the express permission of the state.

Beyond “Silent Sam,” a number of Confederate statues in North Carolina and other states have been vandalized, toppled or otherwise defaced in recent months.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; civilwar; dixie; monuments; purge; statues
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1 posted on 08/22/2018 9:53:43 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Be sure to mention that the Confederates were Democrats.


2 posted on 08/22/2018 9:55:29 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

Most RATS are too ignorant and stupid to realize that. And that is a fact that they do not want to hear....


3 posted on 08/22/2018 9:57:21 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: yesthatjallen

Blacks who want memory of the Confederacy obliterated are buying what the bad guys are selling. Without the constant reminders of Slavery and the Confederacy, they’ll lose knowledge of and pride in their heritage. That’s not good for anyone, black or white.


4 posted on 08/22/2018 9:58:35 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: yesthatjallen

The context about slavery should include the fact that Muslims first brought slavery to Africa and that Portugese, the first Europeans who traded in African slaves, got the idea from Muslims living in the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa who were impressing Portuguese into slavery for more than three centruries before they were strong enough to fight back.


5 posted on 08/22/2018 9:58:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: yesthatjallen
Here's some context that should be included...

When southern whites retorted that they would rather remain under military rule than submit to black equality, northern congressmen passed the Military Reconstruction Act of 1867, which called for new southern state constitutional conventions to rewrite state constitutions providing for black civic rights before the states could be readmitted to the Union. Crucially, the Military Reconstruction Act permitted African-American men to vote.

White southern Democrats recoiled at the idea of sharing political rights with black men. But African Americans and white southern Republicans, who had supported the Union during the war, recognized the power of their position. Republicans across the South began to organize black voters. One of their most common venues for political organization was among the very powerful black churches, especially the African Methodist Episcopal Church, and many of the early leading black politicians were clergymen.

At first, white Democrats stood against the political awakening of southern African Americans by simply refusing to enroll voters. This prompted Congress to put the military in charge of voter registration.

When both white and black Republicans registered to vote and elected moderate constitutional conventions, white Democrats organized a new force to stop their political opponents from taking over their states: the Ku Klux Klan. Before the 1868 elections, members of the Ku Klux Klan murdered at least a thousand African Americans and their white allies. In South Carolina, they killed African-American clergyman and state legislator B. F. Randolph at a train depot in broad daylight.

Congress stood against Klan terrorism with an 1871 law making their political intimidation a federal offense, a distinction that enabled President Grant to stop the depredations of the Ku Klux Klan by imposing martial law in parts of the South and by having federal courts, rather than local courts, try offenders.

For the next twenty years, white southern Democrats controlled black political voices by finding ways either to work with black voters or to silence them. This was imperative, they insisted, for black voters were only interested in social welfare legislation that would cost tax dollars and thus “corrupt” the American government.

In 1889, the threat of a new Republican administration to mount a federal defense of black voting brought a new construction to the idea of the corruption of government. A new generation of white Democrats worried far less about political than about social issues. They insisted that black men must not vote because if they voted, they would take local political offices. This would give them patronage power, for in the nineteenth century, local positions depended on the goodwill of local politicians.


6 posted on 08/22/2018 10:07:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yesthatjallen

I approve. Though you’d think the very fact that there are such confederate monuments would be it’s own rememberance about slavery and what the nation paid for - but that’s asking a lot from our uneducated and deliberately ignorant populace these days.


7 posted on 08/22/2018 10:09:47 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Moonman62

Democrats in the 1860’s were Conservative. Republicans were the wild eyed abolitionist. The two have switched since then.


8 posted on 08/22/2018 10:12:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

From Lincoln’s first inaugural address:

In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The Government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in heaven to destroy the Government, while I shall have the most solemn one to “preserve, protect, and defend it.”

I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.


9 posted on 08/22/2018 10:16:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: yesthatjallen

The toppling of Silent Sam made this good outcome almost a certainty.


10 posted on 08/22/2018 10:17:10 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: yesthatjallen

Unless the vandals (who can be identified from video) are expelled and prosecuted, the property will not be safe.


11 posted on 08/22/2018 10:19:06 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: central_va
The two have switched since then.

I take issue with that.

Before the war, Democrats wanted to extend slavery and keep Blacks subservient.
During the war, Democrats staged draft riots to sabotage the efforts of the Union.
After the war, Democrats started the KKK.
After the war, the Democrats opposed Reconstruction of the South and opposed rights for Blacks.
The Democrats supported Jim Crow laws.
The Democrats opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
The Democrats supported the New Deal and the Great Society, big government programs which encouraged people to rely on government hand-outs rather than their own efforts, therefore leading multiple generations into subservient lifestyles.

The Republicans have been on the other side of this from start to finish.

Nobody really switched sides. The Democrats have always been the Bad Guys. But Bad Guys with clever PR.

12 posted on 08/22/2018 10:36:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: Moonman62

That is exactly what I was going to say. The context needs to make clear that the reason the South had racial problems after slavery ended is because the Democrats used white supremacy, segregation, racial politics, Jim Crow laws and an organized terrorist group, the KKK, to terrify blacks into submission and maintain political power. And that the best thing that could happen for race relations in this country would be that the Democrat Party is outlawed.


13 posted on 08/22/2018 10:49:15 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Just wait until the Chapel Hill Amoeba Riot Group Extraordinaire (CHARGE) gets wind of this. They will be storming the capitol grounds shortly.


14 posted on 08/22/2018 10:53:23 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Moonman62

“Be sure to mention that the Confederates were Democrats.”

I’m a NC native and had many ancestors fight and die for the South in the “War of Northern Aggression”. Please do not be so flippant as to compare the Southern Soldier of 150 years ago with today’s Democrat swine. Thank you.


15 posted on 08/22/2018 12:24:11 PM PDT by myerson
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To: yesthatjallen

I watched a Movie from 1934 on TCM last night.

It was called Judge Priest, directed by John Ford and starred Will Rogers. It was based in Kentucky during Post Reconstruction.

Interesting with the interaction of the Black and White Characters and the evident pride in the Confederate cause.

I’m shocked it wasn’t banned from the Airwaves and YouTube.


16 posted on 08/22/2018 12:35:16 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Would you please post a citation for your excellent context description? Did you write it? If not, where did it come from?


17 posted on 08/22/2018 1:10:03 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Interrupt Obama and reporters are racist; interrupt Trump and they're heroes. --Mark Levin)
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To: ClearCase_guy; central_va
"The two have switched since then."

I take issue with that.

I do, as well. Dinesh D'Souza has laid out the case for that "switch places" thing being a false claim in his last several books. Central_va, go see Death of a Nation, or read D'Souza's book by that name.

18 posted on 08/22/2018 1:13:12 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Interrupt Obama and reporters are racist; interrupt Trump and they're heroes. --Mark Levin)
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To: Moonman62

This union sucks sh!t. Dissolve it and start over as 50 independent countries with a mutaul defense treaty.


19 posted on 08/22/2018 1:13:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Albion Wilde

D’souza is an idiot. His cartoon-ish view of history is a joke.


20 posted on 08/22/2018 1:14:54 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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