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Inmates will go on strike by refusing to eat and work to protest 'prison slavery'
Daily Mail ^ | 8/19/18 | Keith Griffith

Posted on 08/21/2018 3:01:15 AM PDT by Libloather

Prison inmates across the country are preparing to go on strike by refusing to eat or work, as a way to protest what they call 'prison slavery' and poor conditions.

Though the extent of the planned strike is not known, prisoners in at least 17 states say they will be taking part in coordinated action, which will begin on Tuesday and last through September 9.

Organizers say the strike is partly in response to the April riot in South Carolina's Lee Correctional Institution, where seven inmates were killed by other prisoners when gang tensions boiled over.

The masterminds of the strike have issued a list of 10 'demands', including an improvement of prison conditions, an end to life imprisonment, and an end to low-paid jobs behind bars.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: inmates; prison; protest; right2die; strike
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

I am not sure what the problem is here.

When someone goes on a hunger strike, it is their body and certainly not a public problem.


41 posted on 08/21/2018 5:20:08 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: varyouga

We truly need to reform the prison system and punishment reform.


42 posted on 08/21/2018 5:21:15 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: varyouga
"Defacto mandatory prison labor for private corporations and private prisons create massive financial incentive to place more people behind bars. We already have confirmed incidents with corrupt judges being bribed to place more people in certain for-profit prisons (at taxpayer expense).

You can have the exact same problem with "goverment-run" prisons. BOTH are illegal.

"Not good and should be 100% banned in civilized society. Nobody should profit based on taking peoples’ freedom and it leads to nothing but the worst imaginable corruption.

Uh, no.....socialism (you know, that philosophy that you ran to get away from) leads to "the worst imaginable corruption", both in prison and out.

43 posted on 08/21/2018 5:21:32 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Libloather

Why Have Penitentiaries Anyway?

Samuel G. Dawson

Most people realize that the court and penal systems in North America are seriously broken and must be fixed, yet contemplating doing away with penitentiaries sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? Barely 200 years ago, an experiment began which has cost us untold billions of dollars. Just last year, this experiment resulted in 1.4 million adults incarcerated in federal and state penitentiaries (a figure which has quadrupled since 1980) at a cost of nearly $40,000 each.

As Alan Elsner pointed out in a recent Washington Post article, 2.2 million people are engaged in catching criminals and putting and keeping them behind bars, and “corrections” has become one of the largest sectors of the U.S. economy, employing more people than the combined workforces of General Motors, Ford and Wal-Mart, the three biggest corporate employers in the country. In many “prison town” counties, the number one employer is the Department of Corrections. This is a staggering expense of over $50 billion, an amount that increases by additional billions for each year of the last 25 years of explosive prison growth. As the prison population ages, the taxpayer is paying for medical procedures he can’t afford for himself, and the victims of these criminals realize no compensation at all.

Few realize that the first penitentiary in the world was founded in Philadelphia in 1792. Jails had always existed for the purpose of holding the accused until trial, after which the guilty would pay a fine, make restitution to the victim, be banished, be executed, etc. However, the concept of warehousing criminals to cause them to repent was entirely new.

Imagine a criminal justice system where penitentiaries didn’t even exist, but where a person paid for his crimes rather than having society pay to keep him incarcerated.

One such nation existed. If you stole someone’s property, say a sheep, and were caught with the animal in your possession, you repaid the victim with two sheep, but you didn’t go to a penitentiary. The victim also got a financial settlement, satisfying the desire for victim restitution in our time.

If you sold the stolen sheep, thereby being more involved in the crime, you paid the victim four sheep.

If you committed a capital crime, (murder, rape, kidnapping, etc.) you paid with your life, but you didn’t go to a penitentiary. Such facilities didn’t exist in this nation. They were not needed.

Such a system would completely do away with our newest growth industry, penitentiaries, and restore the victim of crime financially.

I’m not going to tell you where I got the idea for this system, but it’s from a reliable source. Of course, it will never happen here because a powerful lobby has grown up around the prison system that will fight hard to protect the status quo. Correction officers have formed powerful labor unions, and their financial contributions to our politicians will easily outweigh the will of the people. I know, I know, I’m such a young man to be so cynical.


44 posted on 08/21/2018 5:25:14 AM PDT by FNU LNU
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To: wardamneagle

If you really want to be cruel, feed ‘em TOFURKEY!!!


45 posted on 08/21/2018 6:10:22 AM PDT by catman67 (14 gauge?)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“You can have the exact same problem with “goverment-run” prisons. BOTH are illegal.”

How?

With government run prison, there is no owner/shareholder with big money and incentive to imprison more people.

We already have multiple cases of judges being bought by private prison owners and no record of this with public prisons. Despite many more public prisons that have been run for much longer periods.

Perhaps prison worker unions would have influence but they get a much smaller piece of the pie and have much less power with local judges than private prison owners do.

Neither system is ideal but what do you suggest instead of prisons for violent criminals?


46 posted on 08/21/2018 6:22:33 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: KingLudd

Let ‘em croak. A boon to society.


47 posted on 08/21/2018 6:25:07 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Libloather

If they aren’t hungry, I’m okay with them not eating. If they don’t want to work, then I’m okay with not paying them and leaving them locked up - hungry - in their cells. If criminals don’t like prison, perhaps they should stop breaking the law.


48 posted on 08/21/2018 6:38:04 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: varyouga
"How? With government run prison, there is no owner/shareholder with big money and incentive to imprison more people."

Do you think that privately-run prisons don't have "watchdogs" from many organizations scrutinizing their operation?? Your "capitalist incentive" is socialist-think crap, and you should have left that kind of thinking behind. If there is a flow of money, someone will attempt to find a means to route some of it into their own pockets. It is the human condition. "Capitalism" or "socialism" has nothing to do with it.

"We already have multiple cases of judges being bought by private prison owners and no record of this with public prisons. Despite many more public prisons that have been run for much longer periods."

Who is "we"? Show me the verified data. And there is most certainly a record for this having been done in "public" prisons. I'm from Louisiana...see "Angola"..a government-run prison. The same corruption existed there as well as in smaller government-run penal institutions in Louisiana. You need to find better data sources.

49 posted on 08/21/2018 6:39:15 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Libloather

Hey criminals. You don’t like prison? Then don’t break the law. No sympathy here. I feel sorry for your victims, not you.


50 posted on 08/21/2018 7:00:51 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: Wonder Warthog

Numerous studies show that private prisons hold inmates for longer periods of time, have higher rates of reincarceratation and offer no savings to taxpayers. You can easily find them.

Several judges in my region have been incarcerated for taking bribes from corporarions to place more people in jail (see Luzerne and Lake Erie). There are employees on the inside who have reported this happens more often than we know. Including several who spoke to me personally and fear for their lives to speak out.

Show me an example of a judge that was bribed by a public prison official to imprison more people. I could not find a single one. Why would a public worker bribe a judge with their own low salary to overcrowd a prison they dont even own?

Once someone starts profiting from each head in a cage and stacking big money, only then do they have the power to corrupt.


51 posted on 08/21/2018 7:07:56 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: catman67
I recall Laurel and Hardy realizing prison hunger strikes can be difficult to pull off:

Oliver: We're not going to the mess hall. We're not going to eat.

Prison Guard: You're not going to eat?

Stanley: No, we're on a hunger strike.

Oliver: Emphatically.

Prison Guard: What? You're going to pass up that nice, big roast turkey with chestnut dressing, and sweet potatoes Southern style, great big pans of hot biscuits, strawberry shortcake smothered in whipped cream, sprinkled with powdered sugar, with a nice, big maraschino cherry on the top of it. Course, followed by a nice, big slice of ice cold watermelon and a big, black cigar.

Stanley: Any nuts?

Prison Guard: All you can eat of 'em.

Stanley: How about postponing the strike until tomorrow?

Oliver: Well... But not one minute after tomorrow.

Prison Guard: Come on, fall in!

Stanley: [later; Stan sees their meal of gruel] Hey! What about that turkey dinner?

Prison Guard: [shouts] Sit down, you!

52 posted on 08/21/2018 7:17:25 AM PDT by daler
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To: Libloather

Are we talking “Bobby Sands” here or are they just skipping one meal?


53 posted on 08/21/2018 7:18:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
That was my question exactly.

It is a troubling development. Society is on the verge of conplete breakdown.

54 posted on 08/21/2018 7:19:49 AM PDT by riri
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To: HighSierra5
Please don’t joke about moonbeam being President. After what he’s done to Mexifornia, I get nautious thinking what he’d do to the US.

You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Brown
When you mess with President Brown

55 posted on 08/21/2018 7:19:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"Uh, no.....socialism (you know, that philosophy that you ran to get away from) leads to 'the worst imaginable corruption', both in prison and out."

Either way, the prisons are publicly funded. The costs are paid with big government spending from the increasing piles of recirculating debt that support contemporary socialism.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Don't miss the state and local debts there. Now, that's socialism!

And as for the prisons, the piles of debt across this country will collapse at some point in the process, not long after the bond collapse and vicious circle of general economic collapse.

For now, though, we're enjoying the longest bull run in the markets in history. Think it will go on for another 30 years or so? I doubt it. Even if the markets continue to be stable, the regime of big, socialist spending and rising debts will most likely cause some interesting problems unexpectedly soon.


56 posted on 08/21/2018 7:21:15 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: varyouga
"Numerous studies show that private prisons hold inmates for longer periods of time, have higher rates of reincarceratation and offer no savings to taxpayers. You can easily find them."

Uh, no. You're the one making the argument...support it with data.

"Several judges in my region have been incarcerated for taking bribes from corporarions to place more people in jail (see Luzerne and Lake Erie). There are employees on the inside who have reported this happens more often than we know. Including several who spoke to me personally and fear for their lives to speak out.

Anecdotal data, and therefore worth nothing. And why are these people speaking to you?? I ask again...who is "we"?? I smell an activist organization member pushing an agenda.

"Show me an example of a judge that was bribed by a public prison official to imprison more people. I could not find a single one. Why would a public worker bribe a judge with their own low salary to overcrowd a prison they dont even own?

Why a judge specifically?? Corruption happens through whatever office controls the money flows. In publicly-run prisons, that is more often the warden than a judge. I've seen any number of news stories of wardens being found corrupt and dismissed and tried themselves.

"Once someone starts profiting from each head in a cage and stacking big money, only then do they have the power to corrupt."

Yes, but that happens in government-run as well as privately-run prisons. You're selling publicly-run prisons as somehow unique, and government-run ones as uniquely honest. Neither is true.

57 posted on 08/21/2018 7:51:00 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Libloather

The best way to go on strike against prison slavery is to stop breaking the law.


58 posted on 08/21/2018 7:56:46 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: FNU LNU

“Few realize that the first penitentiary in the world was founded in Philadelphia in 1792. Jails had always existed for the purpose of holding the accused until trial, after which the guilty would pay a fine, make restitution to the victim, be banished, be executed, etc. However, the concept of warehousing criminals to cause them to repent was entirely new.”

Obviously you are referring to Israel originally not having prisons based on the Torah. But the Torah contradicts your claims about prisons being new. Joseph went to prison on false accusation of attempted rape. And this was many centuries ago.


59 posted on 08/21/2018 7:59:51 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: Libloather

Will they take a knee?


60 posted on 08/21/2018 8:05:22 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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