[Wonder Warthog]

"Defacto mandatory prison labor for private corporations and private prisons create massive financial incentive to place more people behind bars. We already have confirmed incidents with corrupt judges being bribed to place more people in certain for-profit prisons (at taxpayer expense).

You can have the exact same problem with "goverment-run" prisons. BOTH are illegal.

"Not good and should be 100% banned in civilized society. Nobody should profit based on taking peoples’ freedom and it leads to nothing but the worst imaginable corruption.

Uh, no.....socialism (you know, that philosophy that you ran to get away from) leads to "the worst imaginable corruption", both in prison and out.

[varyouga]

“You can have the exact same problem with “goverment-run” prisons. BOTH are illegal.”

How?

With government run prison, there is no owner/shareholder with big money and incentive to imprison more people.

We already have multiple cases of judges being bought by private prison owners and no record of this with public prisons. Despite many more public prisons that have been run for much longer periods.

Perhaps prison worker unions would have influence but they get a much smaller piece of the pie and have much less power with local judges than private prison owners do.

Neither system is ideal but what do you suggest instead of prisons for violent criminals?

[familyop]

"Uh, no.....socialism (you know, that philosophy that you ran to get away from) leads to 'the worst imaginable corruption', both in prison and out."

Either way, the prisons are publicly funded. The costs are paid with big government spending from the increasing piles of recirculating debt that support contemporary socialism.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Don't miss the state and local debts there. Now, that's socialism!

And as for the prisons, the piles of debt across this country will collapse at some point in the process, not long after the bond collapse and vicious circle of general economic collapse.

For now, though, we're enjoying the longest bull run in the markets in history. Think it will go on for another 30 years or so? I doubt it. Even if the markets continue to be stable, the regime of big, socialist spending and rising debts will most likely cause some interesting problems unexpectedly soon.