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ew Tesla owners on hook for $14K after sudden end of electric car incentive program (Ontario Canada)
CBC News ^ | July 14, 2018

Posted on 07/15/2018 7:57:25 AM PDT by jerod

Ending program immediately for purchases directly from manufacturer is unfair, customers say

Some Tesla customers say they now have to fork over an extra $14,000 for their new Model 3 electric cars because of Ontario's sudden decision to end an incentive program for electric and hydrogen vehicles.

The provincial government announced Wednesday that the program will end on Sept. 10 for those who have their vehicle delivered, registered, and plated if it was purchased from a dealer, but it ended immediately for those who ordered their electric and hydrogen vehicle directly from the manufacturer.

As Tesla does not have dealers and their cars are sold directly to consumers, some Tesla customers say they feel like they've been unfairly targeted.

Matthew Cheung told CBC Toronto that his father had been saving up for an electric vehicle for some time, and once the more modestly priced Tesla Model 3, which retails for $45,600, was announced, he felt owning an electric car was finally in reach.

While still a bit of a financial stretch, Cheung said his father put down a non-refundable deposit for his "dream car" the day before the election.

Cheung said he knew the rebate would be cancelled but expected it to be done in a way where existing orders in progress would be honoured....

David Adams, president of the Global Automakers of Canada industry association, said Friday that experience elsewhere shows that sales of electric vehicles take a hit when subsidies are removed, such as when British Columbia stopped and then restarted its program.

"When they cancelled it, sales went down dramatically, and then when they reinstated it, sales went back up again. That is the same pattern that we've seen in other jurisdictions internationally," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; model3; ontario; spacex; tesla
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Boo hoo... Now you need to pay the real price of the car instead of the subsidized price... In Canada, electric vehicles are purely for the rich because typically you aren't going to rely on an electric vehicle where the climate is pretty frosty for most of the year... Travel distances are reduced way too much.

Rich liberals love subsidies and hate paying a price for their carbon reduction... They would prefer that the taxpayers pay for it. Good for Rob Ford and the Ontario Conservatives...

1 posted on 07/15/2018 7:57:25 AM PDT by jerod
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All these cars, electric, hybrid, etc., should include on the price sticker the real price and the amount of tax benefits, tax subsidy, etc. Let these cars survive in a free market.


2 posted on 07/15/2018 8:01:30 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: jerod

sounds like more free market


3 posted on 07/15/2018 8:03:09 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: jerod

Telsa is solidly tied to the global warming scam.


4 posted on 07/15/2018 8:05:21 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: jerod
experience elsewhere shows that sales of electric vehicles take a hit when subsidies are removed

Yeah, but it's good for the taxpayers not to have help pay for someone else's car.

5 posted on 07/15/2018 8:05:41 AM PDT by libertylover (I'm not arguing with you; I'm just explaining why I'm right and you're wrong.)
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To: jerod
Some Tesla customers say they now have to fork over an extra $14,000 for their new Model 3 electric cars

"Fork over". They make it sound like they shouldn't have to pay full price for a car that they want. Hey, you can buy a more reasonably priced car (even electric) at many other car companies. Tesla = virtue signaling; and, I don't think other American tax payers should have to pay for their virtue signaling.

6 posted on 07/15/2018 8:06:00 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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Boo hoo... Now you need to pay the real price of the car instead of the subsidized price...

...

I think the gist of this article is that those who ordered from a dealer are being given preferential treatment.


7 posted on 07/15/2018 8:06:36 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: jerod

So basically - no one wants these cars without a massive government subsidy....


8 posted on 07/15/2018 8:09:27 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Elon Musk is taking his manufacturing to Singapore, planning to make 500,000 cars a year. He can’t even find a way to sell even 5,000 now.


9 posted on 07/15/2018 8:10:32 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Here’s a recent owner review of a Model 3 that includes the negatives and positives. I didn’t detect much in the way of virtue signalling or smugness.

https://youtu.be/wfP5az-BMiE


10 posted on 07/15/2018 8:11:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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Isn't Ontario governed by a dyke?
11 posted on 07/15/2018 8:12:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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Oh a liberal’s nightmare! Having to pay their own way without govnt and other people paying for their vehicle.....imagine that. Now wonder if govnmt will pay me a $14k subsidy for my high mpg VW petroleum powered vehicle........?????...which is ‘greener’ than a Tesla too!!!!


12 posted on 07/15/2018 8:12:14 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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Singapore?

Can’t sell 5000?

I think you need to check your source of information.


13 posted on 07/15/2018 8:13:45 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: jerod

“David Adams, president of the Global Automakers of Canada industry association, said Friday that experience elsewhere shows that sales of electric vehicles take a hit when subsidies are removed,”

You mean when they stop stealing others peoples money to pay for the car of someone else.


14 posted on 07/15/2018 8:15:26 AM PDT by Revel
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“Cheung said he knew the rebate would be cancelled but expected it to be done in a way where existing orders in progress would be honoured....”

Cheung made a poor decision.


15 posted on 07/15/2018 8:15:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (kuoTrump: "Families of American citizens murdered by illegals are permanently separated from them!)
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I took a BMW i3 on an overnight test drive last year and it would be hard to exaggerate just how unimpressed I was.I know that it's a different vehicle but the basic concept is the same.The thought of running out of juice and then needing a tow truck is outrageous! I just bought a car that gives 44mpg on the highway and has an 18 gallon tank.And it can be “recharged” in four minutes at any one of 35,000 ‘recharging’ stations nationwide.
16 posted on 07/15/2018 8:17:59 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: deadrock
Telsa is solidly tied to is part the global warming scam, like solar power on your roof!
17 posted on 07/15/2018 8:18:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (kuoTrump: "Families of American citizens murdered by illegals are permanently separated from them!)
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Unfair?!?!?!?

It was unfair that they got the subsidy in the first place.


18 posted on 07/15/2018 8:19:48 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Sasparilla

It’s easy to risk OPM.


19 posted on 07/15/2018 8:22:48 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Isn’t Ontario governed by a dyke?”

It was ...Kathleen Wynne
She was defeated last month by Doug Ford a Conservative who so far has been keeping with a conservative platform as he promised. his brother was the former Rob Ford...crazy crack head. You can look him up.


20 posted on 07/15/2018 8:23:58 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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