Posted on 07/13/2018 10:43:56 AM PDT by re_tail20
As the former chief judge of New York, I have seen that money bail doesnt work.
In New York, like most states, a person who is charged with a crime can be required to put down money as bail, serving as collateral to ensure he or she returns to court. If you can pay, you go home. If you cant, you go to jail.
In other words, if you are wealthy, you can fight your charges from home with the help of high-end lawyers. If you arent, you may have to defend yourself from behind bars, represented by a public defender who is hard-pressed and more than likely overloaded with other cases.
In New York City, only 12 percent of the people who have bail set can pay immediately. The other 88 percent are transported to the infamous jail complex on Rikers Island.
Rikers is a particularly awful place so bad that an independent commission that I lead determined that the only way to fix Rikers is to close it forever. But whether you are sent to Rikers or any other jail, you are entering a harsh and often dangerous environment that isolates you from your loved ones, your livelihood and your community.
Some people can make bail within a few days, usually relying on money collected by family and friends or borrowed from commercial bondsmen, who charge high fees. Many others stay in jail for months or even years as their cases wind through the courts.
Even a short time in jail can harm your job, your family and your reputation. It can expose you to violence or criminal influences. All this happens before you have been convicted of any crime.
The consequences do not end at the jail doors. Studies show that spending just a few days...
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10% of bail to be posted by the accused.
Who cares?
Exactly how I read it. You can almost read the racism in this article.
The state takes the risk instead of the bondsman.... and the fees. Profitable business.
Demonstrably FALSE
I disagree, some lowlife transporting 100 pounds of fetnal or meth can kill thousands of people. It may be non-violent but just as deadly.
Aside from the Manfort case with is a disgrace I don't see why this is an issue.
Well.i never thought of that. You are right, there’s potential for great injury if someone is transporting drugs like that.
Then it occurs to me, we really have to look at this case by case, to determine bail for suspects.
It isn’t symbolic. If the accused fails to appear for trial, then the bond is forfeited and he owes the remaining 90%. He just owes it to the State rather than a bondsman.
But how often does that really happen to the point bail can’t be raised?
I think on the contrary he is very well acquainted with common sense. Even more he is well acquainted with how the justice system is stacked against certain people. Many of them innocent of the charges or first time offenders accused of misdemeanors.
He advocates for supervised release (barring valid concerns that the offender is a danger to others). So he is not suggesting a catch and release, where the heck did they go? alternative to cash bail.
I don't abide by what you're trying to say. I've told the story here before, but on the way to the wedding reception, the mother and father of the bride were hit and killed by a drunk driver, who happened to be an undocumented worker. The judge, for reasons no one can be certain said that, because he was not rich, bail would be set at $20,000, which he paid. No one has seen him since. To me, two murders that will never see justice because some stupid judge tried to take economic considerations into the bail judgement. People are jailed because of a flight risk, innocent or not. It's got little to do with guilt or innocence at that point in time.
I meant IN GENERAL.
Just take their EBT cards.
Wanna eat? See da Judge.
How many crimes have you committed today? The answer is, you don't know, because you have absolutely no idea ALL the things some federal, state, county, city law or regulatory action compels or forbids you to do. You cannot possibly know.
How many people have been arrested, put on trial, and then acquitted by a jury of their peers?
Not committing obvious acts of murder, rape and robbery certainly improves your likelihood of not being arrested, but it's no guarantee.
Illegal alien. And I would have held him without bond.
See my post #53 in response to the other nit picker. I have committed no crimes today. It was a general statement.
So the judge never heard of bail bonds? Guess this is what is considered fake news!
Start here: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-craig-baseball-20180710-story.html
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