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Now is the moment to revisit the legality of the U.S.-Mexico border
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 2, 2018 | Marcela Davison Aviles

Posted on 07/03/2018 3:59:48 PM PDT by artichokegrower

There’s a popular saying among those of us in the Mexican American community who grew up on the border: We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us. With Sunday’s election of Andrés Manuel López Obrador as Mexico’s next president, the idea to revisit the legality of our southern border, proposed by Mexican leftist leader Cuauhtémoc Cárdenas Solórzano, is suddenly not so crazy.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: borderinsecurity; bordersecurity; guadalupehidalgo; mexicoborder; rememberthealamo; war
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We remember that land was invaded and occupied.


We whooped your @ss in that war and we can do it again.

1 posted on 07/03/2018 3:59:48 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

what are we waiting for??? lets do it again!


2 posted on 07/03/2018 4:02:06 PM PDT by chaser64
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To: artichokegrower

They seriously want to re-litigate the Mexican-American War? How about World War II?


3 posted on 07/03/2018 4:02:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: artichokegrower

How many square inches of land on this planet hasn’t been invaded or occupied?


4 posted on 07/03/2018 4:03:09 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: artichokegrower

Any other wars where you want a do-over? How about how Mexico got the land from the [next level more] indigenous people? Are you going to reverse that too, or are you just a brain damaged hypocrite?


5 posted on 07/03/2018 4:03:20 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: artichokegrower

How about this, we will enforce our border and you will comply or die.


6 posted on 07/03/2018 4:03:40 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm.)
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Wow! Why not just lawfully cross into Mexico ( they carry US documents, right? And stay. I am sure the Mexican govt will feed, clothe educate and employ you free gratis.... If you go and then find there is no light at the end of that tunnel, and try to return, we will have to think about it.....


7 posted on 07/03/2018 4:05:28 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: artichokegrower

If Mexico wants another war then this time we get to take Cabo San Lucas and Cozumel!


8 posted on 07/03/2018 4:05:34 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: artichokegrower

If conquest,appropriation, and purchase cannot make a border “legal” then there are no legal borders anywhere.


9 posted on 07/03/2018 4:05:44 PM PDT by arthurus (trh)
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To: artichokegrower

“With Sunday’s election of Andrés Manuel López Obrador as Mexico’s next president, the idea to revisit the legality of our southern border, proposed by Mexican leftist leader Cuauhtémoc Cárdenas Solórzano, is suddenly not so crazy.”

Yeah, sorry Marcela. That idea is still bats**t crazy.


10 posted on 07/03/2018 4:05:49 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (Leftists. Their only response to failure is to double down.)
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To: artichokegrower

Could you or someone refresh my memory please? Didn’t Mexico start that war?


11 posted on 07/03/2018 4:06:09 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: Manly Warrior

This crap only goes one way.


12 posted on 07/03/2018 4:06:09 PM PDT by Luke21 (The Hill sucks.)
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To: artichokegrower

The reality is....Mexico shouldn’t exist...It should have become part of the United States.


13 posted on 07/03/2018 4:06:32 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: artichokegrower
Memo to clueless Libtard: Just because the acquisition of territory in the Mexican War was spurred on by slave-state politicians does not invalidate the legality of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. I will also point out that Santa Anna's army crossed the Rio Grande first--because there was a dispute about the location of the border after the Texas Revolution.

Secondly, if we are going to open up the terms of the treaty, we could just annex all of Mexico. Two points here: (1) There was sentiment back in 1848 to annex all of Mexico. (2) One might wonder why one wants to have a Republic of Mexico at all given all the Mexicans who want to live in the U.S.

I should respect a paper that is willing to publish alternative views--but can one wonders if there were more plausible and sane views to publish.

14 posted on 07/03/2018 4:08:06 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: MeganC

I also am quite fond of Mazatlan and Acapulco. I visited those places in 1981. They were beautiful.


15 posted on 07/03/2018 4:08:09 PM PDT by Jean2
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They'd better review their history. If they came across the Rio they'd be met by the native Indians. It was Spanish Conquistador's that wander in through Mexica not the indiginous of Mexica.

You see, the etymology of Mexico is Nahua. Metztli means moon. Xictli is bellybutton. Co is an suffix that refers to "place". So it means "The belly button of the moon".

Mexico refers to the "place for the Mexica people"... and most of them today are decendants of the conquistadors from Spain who invaded them.

16 posted on 07/03/2018 4:10:18 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: rightwingcrazy
How many square inches of land on this planet hasn’t been invaded or occupied?....

Maybe they should give Mexico back to the Aztecs. Give Texas to Mexico and in a couple years Texas would conquer Mexico and half of South America. Give California to Mexico and in a few months they would be bankrupt.

17 posted on 07/03/2018 4:11:02 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: artichokegrower

Have we ever bombed Mexico ? If not, now would be a good time.


18 posted on 07/03/2018 4:11:36 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: artichokegrower

Shouldn’t of signed the Treaty morons.


19 posted on 07/03/2018 4:11:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Jean2
"Didn’t Mexico start that war?"

No. We stole it fair and square.

20 posted on 07/03/2018 4:13:12 PM PDT by mlo
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