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High Court: Online shoppers can be forced to pay sales tax
AP ^ | June 21, 2018 | Hessuca Gresko

Posted on 06/21/2018 7:58:37 AM PDT by Reno89519

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court says states can force online shoppers to pay sales tax.

The 5-4 ruling Thursday is a win for states, who said they were losing out on billions of dollars annually under two decades-old Supreme Court decisions that impacted online sales tax collection.

The high court ruled Thursday to overturn those decisions.

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“Each year the physical presence rule becomes further removed from economic reality and results in significant revenue losses to the States. These critiques underscore that the physical presence rule, both as first formulated and as applied today, is an incorrect interpretation of the Commerce Clause,” he wrote.

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Good and bad.
1 posted on 06/21/2018 7:58:37 AM PDT by Reno89519
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To: Reno89519

Always with the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.


2 posted on 06/21/2018 7:59:36 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Reno89519

As a consumer, bad! For states and citizens, good. As a small business, this is frightening. While South Dakota law has $100K threshold before requirement to collect taxes, will other states? And what about states that collect tax on services? And how am I as a small business owner supposed to sort out state, county, and local taxes for each customer?!


3 posted on 06/21/2018 8:00:46 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

They know not what they do.

There are local (city, county) taxes as well as state sales taxes in some jurisdictions.

In addition, some industries have other taxes based on sales.

Good thing I already have a lifetime stash of cigars. :-)


4 posted on 06/21/2018 8:02:16 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Reno89519

And be subject to audit by every state sellers ship to. Could be really messy for smaller online sellers


5 posted on 06/21/2018 8:02:55 AM PDT by sox_the_cat
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To: Reno89519

I wonder who will collect the tax, the retailer when the sale is made or the tax payer when filling out their tax return?


6 posted on 06/21/2018 8:03:32 AM PDT by relee (Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: Reno89519

I’m OK with this as long as I don’t have to pay taxes in two states for one transaction. Also, I don’t want to pay NYC local taxes.


7 posted on 06/21/2018 8:04:45 AM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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To: Reno89519

“stare decisis” unless there is a pile-o-cash in the mix


8 posted on 06/21/2018 8:06:03 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: relee

The first. Many states already require the latter—saying if you purchased and didn’t pay taxes, then you are required to declare and later do so. Even as the article notes, most people never did. I sure didn’t when living in states where this was noted on the tax return.


9 posted on 06/21/2018 8:06:19 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

The 5-4 breakdown was a little strange:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/17-494_j4el.pdf


10 posted on 06/21/2018 8:06:27 AM PDT by rdl6989
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Yes, interesting. From ruling: KENNEDY, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which THOMAS, GINSBURG, ALITO, and GORSUCH, JJ., joined. THOMAS, J., and GORSUCH, J., filed concurring opinions. ROBERTS, C. J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which BREYER, SOTOMAYOR, and KAGAN, JJ., joined.


11 posted on 06/21/2018 8:08:53 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

The South Dakota law under review: “The law required out-of-state sellers who do more than $100,000 of business in the state or more than 200 transactions annually with state residents to collect sales tax and turn it over to the state.”

I understand that. I assume many online sales sites will start calculating and collecting sales taxes for small businesses - for a fee.

Don’t know if the ruling will open the door for county and city taxes as well.


12 posted on 06/21/2018 8:09:03 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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If I were a retailer here in Tulsa, I would have to collect 8.5% sales tax on every transaction. I could compete against Amazon on service and other variables. But Amazon doesn't have to charge that 8.5% tax. That is just not right or fair.
13 posted on 06/21/2018 8:09:06 AM PDT by FatherofFive (deIslam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Reno89519
Most of the big sites “Amazon/Wal-Mart” have already been collecting sales tax for several years, this will really hurt the mom and pop “internet sales as a hobby” people, unless every other state adopts the $100,000 threshold. But I could see that gamed by mid-sized sellers (IE “Sorry, we can't ship your product until January 1st, we are up to $99,500 in sales to Ohio already this year and we don't want to be responsible for sales tax collection on all our sales...”)
14 posted on 06/21/2018 8:09:36 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Reno89519

“Good and bad. “

The GOOD part is it is apparent this court is willing to abandon stare decisis and overturn one of its own rulings.

Watershed.


15 posted on 06/21/2018 8:10:10 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Reno89519

Non event. Amazon already collecting taxes in Carolina.


16 posted on 06/21/2018 8:11:06 AM PDT by QuigleyDU
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So, I wonder who among them shop online? Have any owned or run a business? Do any have experience to understand the impact to everyone that this decision will have?

Then, again, will it matter?

Will this be tax evasion if I don't collect? My business or me personally?

If I don't collect New York city and state tax, will they issue arrest warrant for me? And nearby California, the same? Will my home state honor it? Will I simply find myself with less travel options to avoid arrest?

17 posted on 06/21/2018 8:13:24 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: apillar

What if a state, county, or city says ALL and not just $100,000 threshold that South Dakota set? Nothing that I see prevents that and states like California and New York are quite greedy and tax hungry.


18 posted on 06/21/2018 8:15:45 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

Thanks Trump


19 posted on 06/21/2018 8:17:21 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Reno89519

Taxing is the most important in the minds of statists. Without forcing people to pay, they would not be able to realize their dream of the all-powerful state.


20 posted on 06/21/2018 8:18:04 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature.)
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