regarding your conciliatory attitude.
Posted on 06/11/2018 5:25:21 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
There are some persons who say they are Jews but they can’t be Jews because they are too stupid to be Jews.
You’re a candidate.
One of the reasons I am so happy with Judaism is that when the most learned Jews discuss different theologies, they teach that while for me as a Jew, the Christian holy trinity would be idolatry, but for a Christian, it is not. Christianity is the way, for Christians, but it isn’t, for Jews. I am very comfortable knowing it’s ok to reach Gd your way and my way. There is no reason to convert you or argue theology with you. And I just mean Christians in general, not you, JT. I love both religions but only one is mine.
I have provided you with several scriptures which you reject and turn your judgmental condemnation upon me.
You have been admonished by scripture twice. You are a hypocrite, a heretic and the Bible commands that you be rejected (Titus 3:10).
I encourage you to actually read the scriptures. They will inform you and equip you to save your lost family members, unless you need saving yourself. Consider this question: What must you do to be saved?
The Bible answers this definitively in Acts 16. Look it up.
Right back at ya. Who died and appointed you G-d? Just because I refuse to accept what proselytizers are trying to sell to the unsuspecting, I'd say that makes me smart, not stupid. You are just resentful because your attempted subterfuge FAILED. Wanna play some more kindergarten games, like name-calling? Go visit a playground, where apparently the conversation is more on your level.
This passage from Romans 9 describes the predicament of Christ-rejecting Jews. They seek righteousness by the works of the law, not by faith. Jesus is their stumbling stone. There is only one way to the father and that is through him.
(Romans 9:30-33)
[30] What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
[31] But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
[32] Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
[33] As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
I think Golux won the thread with his simple post 34:
“Let’s just let Christians be Christians and Jews be Jews, OK?”
I second Golux as the winner!
“The truth is that unsaved Jews do not worship God.”
You are making very broad statements based on a verse out of context. There are many other passages on the subject of God’s identity and the nature of worship. Consider what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman:
John 4:22
You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.
Consider what Paul said the men of Athens:
Acts 17:23
For as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you.
If Paul could show deference to the idolaters of Athens, saying they worshipped the true God out of chance and ignorance, don’t you suppose that God’s chosen people, Israel, might also worship the True and Living God based on His revelation of Himself in His word?
Not all non-Christian or non-believing Jews are enemies. But your statement makes them seem that way, by labeling them all “antichrist”.
There is a difference between those who KNOWINGLY fight against Christ and those who are merely ignorant. Again, consider what Peter said of his unbelieving fellow Jews:
Acts 3:17
Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers.
And also, what did Jesus say about those who were ignorant?
Luke 23:34a
Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”
There are people who are antichrist and enemies among all nationalities, including Jewish people. But most people are merely ignorant. Neither Christ nor the apostles treated the lost as enemies due to their unbelief.
But let me explain why I did.
I spent my life as a businessman. I learned very early on that the only foundation for a successful business is an absolute and relentless devotion to the finding out, evaluating, speaking, facing up to, etc., etc...the truth.
This means listening to everyone speak his or her mind, no matter how painful it might be and returning the same as politely as possible but still leaving no doubt as to meaning.
It means digging through vast piles of opinions and information and examining EVERYTHING.
Only then can a businessman make an informed and educated decision.
Of course, that doesn't mean you always make the right decision but at least you will have a fighting chance to face up to the facts about yourself, your company, your products, etc., etc. and to improve, fix, adjust wherever you find an error.
And if you bring your clients into this loop, you can build trusting, long-term relationships.
Anyway, working with the truth as you know it is addictive.
It is the best policy in business and life.
Now...all that said, is the video at the link at the top of this thread absolutely accurate? I don't know.
I watched it a couple of times and found it thought provoking...and thought others might also.
As an aside, I read the Koran years ago. It didn't feel right. It left me with major reservations as to Islam and their claims about Allah.
I have read (and still do daily) the "Old Testament" and many Christian and Jewish commentaries. It left me stunned with its beauty and wisdom and absolute feeling of holiness. I have weighed it in every way I can imagine and come to only one conclusion. The God of Israel and the Jewish people is THE Creator.
I read the "New Testament" (and still do daily) and am equally blown away and convinced of its truthfulness.
It is not my job to convince anyone of anything, but I do feel an obligation to share things I find that Freepers might find thought provoking.
People will make up their own minds about the truth. They always do.
I read it also, in high school when I was going through my "searching for myself" phase. I placed it in the same category as "Mein Kampf", "The Communist Manifesto", and "Das Kapital".
Nothing has changed my view that the matters put forth in any of those writings are pure and simple gibberish and argle-bargle ...
Buddha needs a chill pill, man. Doesn’t he get it, what goes around... ?? ;)
Have you ever researched all of the prophecies that Jesus fulfilled from the Old Testament? Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, etc? Go ahead. Take a peak. It won’t hurt just to look.
In all due respect (and I think you mean well)...that is complete BS.
If my neighbor's house is in a flood zone and the flood is bearing down...do I not tell him because it might reflect poorly on his judgment for buying that house.
NO!
I tell him the truth as I know it and encourage him to use good judgment.
Some of what we hear is that judgment is an eternal thing.
Is telling our Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Hindu friends our fear that such judgment is an eternally judgmental thing...an arrogant statement.
NO!
We tell them this because we love them.
Might we be wrong?
Well...of course.
So study and read.
Study and read with an open mind.
Your eternity might hang in the balance.
For our Jewish brothers and sister, I say: read the New Testament. See if it is anti-Semitic.
Or see if it isn't Jewish.
Jesus/Yeshuah is/was a Jew...he was never a Christian or a Catholic.
He is a Jew...and He spread the faith of the Jews around the world.
Though we seem to be in the time of the "falling away"...we are also in a time of a "great awakening."
Strange times.
Hang on tight...things are going to get even stranger (or so it seems).;-)
Li Jing is probably angry that he’s been misidentified ;-)
How about a response?
Forgive me for asking...but are you a Christian? I mean a REAL Christian.
You are a skunk at a garden party, aren’t you.
A liar.
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