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To: Leaning Right

What Luther objected to was that people were asked to pay money for indulgences.

That doesn’t happen anymore.


125 posted on 06/04/2018 11:25:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
What Luther objected to was that people were asked to pay money for indulgences. That doesn’t happen anymore.

But if you take time off from work, pay for an airline ticket, pay for a hotel, and attend this or that event that Francis has decreed worthy of a 'plenary indulgence' and actually show up in the crowd, then you merit one.

From the Catholic Catechism:

The faithful can gain indulgences for themselves or apply them to the dead.83

CHAPTER TWO, Article 4, Section X, sub-section 1471, line 83

When I was still a Catholic, if you wanted a special Mass for a loved one, the church expected you to contribute to a special collection.

Catholic Answers Forum states that most churches today still expect this fee:

https://forums.catholic.com/t/having-a-mass-said-for-someone/76458

Some say the fee is "suggested" and not required. But even the suggestion of this un-Biblical, as is the entire premise of an indulgence.

It against God's Word.

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Matthew 20:28

Even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

127 posted on 06/05/2018 3:03:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Salvation
That doesn’t happen anymore.

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130 posted on 06/05/2018 3:29:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation; Leaning Right
What Luther objected to was that people were asked to pay money for indulgences. That doesn’t happen anymore.

So they have to pay for them in other ways now.

So it's OK now cause money doesn't transfer hands.<> Buying is buying and selling is selling. Doesn't matter what the form of currency is.

Indulgences are still unscriptural and just as reprehensible as before.

156 posted on 06/05/2018 5:58:11 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Salvation
What Luther objected to was that people were asked to pay money for indulgences. That doesn’t happen anymore.

A. Luther objected to indulgences for far more reasons than people having to pay for them.

B. Yes, it does still happen.

218 posted on 06/05/2018 7:03:11 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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