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Newt Gingrich: Alfie Evans is condemned to die at 23 months because of Britain's scary secular state
Fox News ^ | April 27, 2018 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 04/27/2018 7:21:46 PM PDT by jazusamo

The British government’s decision to allow two critically ill babies to die in two years is a natural reflection of the culture of death and the steady increase in totalitarian tendencies among Western governments.

Last year, the British government ordered life support removed from Charlie Gard, ending his life when he was just 11 months old. Now, Alfie Evans – just 23 months old – has received what amounts to the same death sentence. On Monday, he was removed from life support by court order – against the wishes of his parents.

Then something remarkable happened. The child confounded his doctors and refused to die.

As of the time I am writing this, Alfie Evans is still alive and is breathing unaided. This is despite the claim made by a medical professional during a court hearing that Alfie would die quickly – possibly in “minutes” – if taken off life support.

But even this display of the power of the human spirit to defy the expectations of the supposedly rational and objective state did nothing to sway the minds of the British courts and state-run medical apparatus.

On Wednesday, another legal appeal by Alfie’s parents to be allowed to try and save their son’s life was denied.

The secular system has asserted its right to define what lives are worth living and is determined to prevent its authority from being questioned. Alfie Evans’ life – like Charlie Gard’s before him – has been determined to be limited by the standards of the secular state, and therefore without value.

These tragic government-imposed death sentences for innocent infants should frighten all of us about increasing secularism in society and the steady shift towards a totalitarian willingness to control our lives – down to and including ending them – on the government’s terms.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alfieevans; britain; cultureofdeath; godgivenrights; newtgingrich; prolife; secularstate
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To: jazusamo

The outcome of an openly secular state is already historically well established. It was the Soviet Union and the monumental extent of its evil cannot be overstated.


21 posted on 04/27/2018 10:23:49 PM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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To: jazusamo

What happens when the citizens are disarmed.


22 posted on 04/27/2018 10:26:16 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES-GOD WITH US)
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To: jazusamo

Noticed a pic where a dozen “tough guys” (cops) blocked the entrance to the hospital.


23 posted on 04/27/2018 10:40:59 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Rome2000

If you haven’t watched it, check out the television series, Turn — available on Netflix.

The series concerns Washington’s Spy Ring, but also does a good job of illustrating UK’s sanctimonious repression.


24 posted on 04/27/2018 10:44:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: vette6387

Al criminal illegal monies aside, Who would get the better care and survive here, Chelsea’s kid or yours, I rest my case


25 posted on 04/28/2018 2:43:05 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Because of one homosexual activist judge who was a director of family services there.

And we have "gay marriage" in part because of one homosexual activist judge.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0804/Proposition-8-federal-judge-overturns-California-gay-marriage-ban

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughn_Walker

A Gay Judge’s Case

"Two months ago, Vaughn Walker, the federal judge who last August struck down California’s Proposition 8, retired; on April 6th, he met with reporters, and took the opportunity to acknowledge that he has been involved in a ten-year relationship with a male partner, a physician. There had been rumors that Walker, who was appointed to the bench by George H. W. Bush, was gay, and the San Francisco Chronicle had reported that the rumors were true."


26 posted on 04/28/2018 3:21:08 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Same way the Brits treated the Catholics in NI.

Sure, they screwed the Irish, Welsh, the Scots, but hey- they take really good care of their own. It isn't just any government who blesses its own subjects with good times like the Enclosure Acts, the Battle of the Somme, Alfie Evans...

Mr. niteowl77 (former Anglophile)

27 posted on 04/28/2018 4:11:51 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: libertylover

I don’t know enough about the details of his medical condition to verify that, but it’s a huge risk in a society where everyone has an expectation that their lives will be managed by the state from birth to death.


28 posted on 04/28/2018 4:36:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: jazusamo

Merely late term abortions...

VERY.

CHOICE takes care of about a million a year in the good ol’ USofA; why fret over a couple more?


29 posted on 04/28/2018 4:53:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: shanover
This was all predicted decades ago and we just went about our business.

Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind.



30 posted on 04/28/2018 4:54:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vette6387
“Hope the new Prince never gets sick.”

Some are more equal than others.

31 posted on 04/28/2018 4:55:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jazusamo

Socialized medicine that Obama wants brought to America!..... SHAMEFUL!


32 posted on 04/28/2018 4:55:57 AM PDT by high info voter (Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; vette6387

AMEN!


33 posted on 04/28/2018 4:56:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SkyPilot
And we have "gay marriage" in part because of one homosexual activist judge.

HMMMmmm...

Must be time for The Message; again...


 

A BIBLICAL Message to LGBT folks EVERYWHERE!



 
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 
 


Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
 
 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 


2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.

34 posted on 04/28/2018 4:58:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: libertylover

You are correct. The child was effectively dead.

The issue boils down to the parents right to take the child to Italy for treatment. I’ve seen no argument as to why the state had the rght to allow treatment to be with held.


35 posted on 04/28/2018 5:07:40 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Thibodeaux

.....”take the child to Italy for treatment”.....Italy had no ‘treatment “ for Alfie....just repeating tests in hopes they could determine the cause of his brain disease. But even if they did find the cause there was nothing they could do that would restore Alfie....and the parents recognized this.


36 posted on 04/28/2018 5:11:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Well, well..... those facts add to the murky reality.

Conclusion:
So far as the Italians were concerned, Alfie was a guinea pig for study of a very rare condition


37 posted on 04/28/2018 5:18:54 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: Thibodeaux

Yes....that’s right.


38 posted on 04/28/2018 5:31:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: jazusamo

What do you think it would be like here if we didn’t have guns?


39 posted on 04/28/2018 7:53:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Dante3

Pretty much a communist society, now have thought crimes (speaking against killing a baby), govt insurance death panels, no guns, no knives, with the added bonus of plenty of feral Muslims to rape the women and stab the men, with an occasional terrorist attack thrown in for good measure.


40 posted on 04/28/2018 7:55:24 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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