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Why A Bar Can Boot Trump Supporters, But A Bakery Cannot Deny Gay Customers
The Daily Bell ^ | 4-27-2018 | Joe Jarvis

Posted on 04/27/2018 10:44:08 AM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 04/27/2018 10:44:08 AM PDT by blam
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The problem is, the Left made all of their favorite causes “protected.”


2 posted on 04/27/2018 10:46:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Businesses have the right to refuse to serve any one.

Then again, you’re free to look elsewhere.


3 posted on 04/27/2018 10:46:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Unless it’s to protect a Christian cause, then an exception will be created from whole cloth.


4 posted on 04/27/2018 10:48:41 AM PDT by setha (Resume where Pershing left off.)
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To: goldstategop

Right. That’s what those cakes were about.


5 posted on 04/27/2018 10:52:39 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: goldstategop

They also have the right to serve refuse to anyone. And in that case, we’re also free to look elsewhere.


6 posted on 04/27/2018 10:55:17 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (We)
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Unless it’s to protect a Christian cause, then an exception will be created from whole cloth

When liberals speak about "nuanced thought," they mean engaging in verbal games of a sort which Jesuits or Talmudic scholars were once accused of. Through their verbal games, they can justify criticizing the speck in Trump's eye while ignoring the plank in Hillary's eye.

WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

7 posted on 04/27/2018 10:56:30 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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The path is clear, just ban all these liberal clowns from your business based on their political association.

Ok, works for me.


8 posted on 04/27/2018 10:58:42 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: Little Ray

Just ask gays if they are democrats. If so, refuse business.


9 posted on 04/27/2018 10:58:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: blam

So, now a bakery can ask what political party you supported, and deny you their services!..................Great................


10 posted on 04/27/2018 10:59:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: blam
Let's try a slightly different example.

One of the bakers got a California to judge agree that the act of baking a cake was artistic expression, and an artist cannot be forced to express sentiments against their beliefs. Buying an off the shelf generic good is okay, but custom designing a cake for a gay wedding can be denied.

Taking this to the bar, the owner might be required to serve the Trump supporter a beer or glass of wine, but might refuse to mix a custom cocktail.

-PJ

11 posted on 04/27/2018 10:59:25 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Luke21

I don’t feel you have the right to deny “regular” service or goods to anyone. You walk into a bar and expect to be served. You don’t have the expectation that the bartender do it a certain way. My understanding is the bakeries did sell to LGBT people but when asked to perform in a certain way they drew the line.

No one wants to be told we don’t serve your kind. How humiliating to the recipient but you can surely tell them we don’t do it that way. The bar is wrong and the bakery is right.


12 posted on 04/27/2018 10:59:32 AM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, the lying or the incompetence.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

I stopped going to the only bar I went to 5 years ago. Most of the regulars were retired gubmint employees and Democrat. Waste of time and money.


13 posted on 04/27/2018 11:00:47 AM PDT by forgotten man
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The bar is a public accommodation, and a gay lifestyle is not a religious belief, that’s where I think the author goes wrong.


14 posted on 04/27/2018 11:10:31 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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No one wants to be told we don’t serve your kind. How humiliating to the recipient but you can surely tell them we don’t do it that way. The bar is wrong and the bakery is right.

I think I'd pretty much agree with that. Which means that the activists judges were wrong both times.

Patron to bar: Look, I just want to come in a have a bottle of beer.
Bar: Nope. I see your Trump hat. We don't serve your kind. Get out.
Judge: The bar is right, you know.

Customer to bakery: I'd like a cake.
Bakery: Certainly! I'm happy to sell you a cake.
Customer: And I want to you to decorate it and praise homosexuality and say God loves homosexuals.
Bakery: Uhhhhhhh. No, I'd rather not. Happy to sell you the cake, but those additions cross the line, and I decline to add those.
Judge: Not a choice. Bake the cake or we will destroy you.

15 posted on 04/27/2018 11:10:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: blam

As a matter of law and of property rights, this is correct. they can boot Trump supporters if they choose to.

But could we boot Hillary supporters or other libs from our business establishment? Anyone want to put money on that?


16 posted on 04/27/2018 11:11:55 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: goldstategop
Businesses have the right to refuse to serve any one.

Depends on why they refuse to serve them.

17 posted on 04/27/2018 11:13:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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But could we boot Hillary supporters or other libs from our business establishment? Anyone want to put money on that?

Let's try it and find out? I'd pay money to watch that.

18 posted on 04/27/2018 11:14:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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You don’t have the expectation that the bartender do it a certain way.

If I order an Absolut vodka martini then I have every expectation that the bartender will do it way.

19 posted on 04/27/2018 11:15:57 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: PUGACHEV
The bar is a public accommodation, and a gay lifestyle is not a religious belief, that’s where I think the author goes wrong.

Also a custom-decorated cake is art, and a beer is not. The author managed to be wrong in all of the relevant points.

20 posted on 04/27/2018 11:20:45 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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