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CHURCH Pastor: I miscalculated impact of LGBTQ-affirming vote
One News Now ^ | January 15, 2018 | Bill Bumpas, Jody Brown

Posted on 04/23/2018 2:07:04 PM PDT by fwdude

A Baptist pastor in Dallas is facing some harsh realities more than a year after leading his congregation to affirm homosexuality.

In November 2016, Wilshire Baptist Church voted to extend membership to those involved in the homosexual lifestyle. The church's slogan is now "Open to all, closed to none."

The action prompted the Baptist General Convention of Texas to sever ties with the church. A year later, Chelsen Vicari decided to contact senior pastor George Mason to see how the church has been affected by the change.

(Excerpt) Read more at onenewsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: baptist; homosexualagenda; religiousleft; schism
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To: fwdude

That is because he is a useful idiot.

JoMa


61 posted on 04/23/2018 4:14:25 PM PDT by joma89
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To: PGR88

When you stand for something you may share a small cross-section of beliefs with others that they will want to hear.

When you stand for nothing nobody wants to hear from you.

These people that believe they’ll only increase their attendance with these policies don’t deserve the congregation they have, as they’re fools.


62 posted on 04/23/2018 4:20:28 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fwdude

Independent of your denomination, your congregation are the people who pay the bills and your salary.
Only a fool or a gay activist cuts off the $$$ flow without consulting those paying the bills.

I’m betting the guy is both a fool and a gay activist.


63 posted on 04/23/2018 4:21:28 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: fwdude

——I can find no scriptural examples to support having just anyone become a part of the intimate body of believers. In fact, there are several admonitions to EXPEL such people, or separate from them.-—

I have no idea why you think I said or implied that....

There are clear scriptural references to church membership, leadership etc....

Nowhere did I say an unrepentant person should have any part of the body of Christ.

What I did say was the Church is where sinners get saved and where the power of the. Holy Spirit is manifest.


64 posted on 04/23/2018 4:28:14 PM PDT by Popman (Wisdom is not what you know about the world but how well you know God. 8)
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To: DoodleDawg

You are intentionally being dense but hey it’s FR so that’s okay.


65 posted on 04/23/2018 4:32:58 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: Popman

Okay, I simply disagree with you that “church is where sinners get saved.” History is replete with just the opposite. (Wesley, Apostle Paul, many a sinner who accepted Christ in a motel room with a Gideon Bible.)

Church is where former sinners are fed and nurtured.


66 posted on 04/23/2018 4:47:52 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

The church lost 250 members and an annual $700,000. The pastor was happy to gain 100 new members. That’s still a loss of 150 members. People are not buying into the misapplication of human sexual biology, God’s most perfect creation.


67 posted on 04/23/2018 4:58:44 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: DoodleDawg

How can they be members if they are not repentant of their sin. We all sin but we do not look to the church to tell us that it is really okay


68 posted on 04/23/2018 4:59:43 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. It's time folks)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Spot on.


69 posted on 04/23/2018 5:59:50 PM PDT by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
The more conservative churches, like the fairly new Presbyterian Church of America, are practically exploding in growth

New Presbyterian Church? Tell me more.

70 posted on 04/23/2018 8:03:23 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Maudeen
It's "brother," and I wish I could find a good Bible preaching church in my area.

:-)

71 posted on 04/23/2018 8:04:31 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: papertyger

Not blaming the Gospel at all. Just pointing out that very few churches preach it, or even know how to preach it!


72 posted on 04/23/2018 8:05:33 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: bk1000
Absolutely correct! So many churches today are afraid of “being offensive” and they base their worship on one or two passages. For me, give me the whole gospel! If more people knew what they were really up against I believe they would come around, but nobody wants to believe.

Truer words were never spoken. And I have to agree on your other point as well. People are more inclined to believe in aliens than they are in the Gospel anymore. Once the Tribulation Period starts they will wish they did.

73 posted on 04/23/2018 8:08:32 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: fwdude

Our conservative non-denom is so crowded that we are looking for another church. It’s like an oven. And 1/4 of the congregation is college students.


74 posted on 04/23/2018 8:13:53 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: ducttape45

Here’s an idea. . . find a Bible believing denomination in the church planting business and start your own!


75 posted on 04/23/2018 8:40:33 PM PDT by Maudeen (www.ThereIsHopeInJesus.com)
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To: PGR88
What the hell does that even mean, except to some kind of vague, cheap virtue-signalling gesture?

"a God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross."

--H Richard Neibuhr, “The Kingdom of God in America”, 1937

NOTE THE DATE!

76 posted on 04/23/2018 8:46:55 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I believe the response from Yeshua to sinners was, “Go and sin no more.”

Modern liberal congregations have forgotten repentance for sin, forgiveness of sin, and the resulting turn from your sin and “sinning no more.”

They have replaced it with “love conquers all” and all is acceptable. Continue in your sins, for nothing can be called sin.


77 posted on 04/23/2018 8:59:52 PM PDT by Yulee
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To: Yulee

Exactly. Jesus didn’t say, “Now continue sinning as before”.


78 posted on 04/24/2018 7:06:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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