Posted on 04/23/2018 6:27:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
In a piece for The Federalist entitled, “It’s Time For The United States To Divorce Before Things Get Dangerous,” writer and former Marine corp combat veteran Jesse Kelly ruffled more than a few feathers with his contention that the time for the United States as a united nation may be nearing an inevitable end.
Comparing the Left and Right in America to “the couple screaming at each other all night, every night as the kids hide in their room,” Kelly cites a congenial divorce as the best option for a country that’s “hopelessly divided” on seemingly every important issue. He even tweeted a helpful accompanying map with a hand-drawn red line ceding the Left coast and the northern states to the liberal governance they deserve.
In his piece, Kelly cites issues from gun control to border security, issues that, while both sides hopelessly disagree, will soon prompt increasingly intolerant Leftists to “start coming for the careers (and lives) of any normal American who sees things differently.”
“We both now agree that living under the other side’s value system is wholly unacceptable,” writes Kelly. “The most peaceful solution we Americans can hope for now is to go our separate ways. So let us come together one last time and agree on one thing: Irreconcilable differences.”
Naturally, Kelly’s idea drew quite a lot of criticism. HotAir’s Jazz Shaw pondered the legality, logistics and workability of such a proposal, but didn’t seem to take a lot of issue with the underlying inevitability.
CNN commentator Sally Kohn took him on when Kelly’s controversial piece earned him an appearance on HLN’s S.E. Cupp Unfiltered. “I’m sure we could find plenty to disagree about, but I actually think there’s quite a lot we could agree on,” said Kohn, citing values like “unity, but also free speech, free assembly, freedom of religion” as well as “the idea that we should all be able to live up to our God-given full potential.”
Except, liberals don’t believe in free speech, much less free assembly. And they don’t really believe in freedom of religion either, at least if you’re a Christian. And that “God” in “God-given?” Are you serious, Kohn?
California State Controller candidate Konstantinos Roditis penned a rebuttal of Kelly’s argument from the right, arguing for a return to real federalism instead of creating more countries. “Jesse, it’s not time for a divorce,” writes Roditis. “It’s time we rise up and take our country back and finally break the shackles of overbearing centralized government and go back to our roots of self-government and self-determination.”
Sounds great, in theory. Let’s ‘take our country back’ and establish REAL small government! Problem is, on what planet will liberals with an already burgeoning near-supermajority possibly allow something like this? After all, Big Government is how these people get stuff done.
While the non-legal arguments against Kelly’s hypothesis seem pretty weak, they say little about what would be best for all parties involved. To a kid who grew up in the 80’s, before unadulterated political correctness infested America’s schools, “Manifest Destiny,” the idea that our settlers were destined to spread all the way from the Atlantic to the Pacific, seemed more common sense and a source of pride to me than controversial and worthy of shame. And even now, the idea of America splitting up pulls at the heartstrings just a little.
But let’s face it, America will never again be the America we grew up in. Progressivism has ruined it, and likely beyond repair. Beyond the idea of a nation spreading its wings and conquering the wilderness is that of self-governance, of people being free to live in the kind of place, and under the kind of government, of their choosing, whether what they choose is limited, Constitutional government or utter liberal lunacy.
To Roditis’ point, the states were supposed to be the vehicle for that, under a limited federal government, but we all know how THAT turned out. If we aren’t going to do federalism right, perhaps divorce is the only way forward.
Interestingly, Bill Hammond tweeted a link to both Kelly’s Federalist piece and a Medium article entitled “The Great Lesson of California in America’s New Civil War” from the Left under the caption “These two articles should be hate-read in tandem.” In the Medium piece, Peter Leyden cites California’s example as the way forward for a divisive America. Except, rather than let conservatives pave their own way as Kelly would, Leyden wants to establish “Democratic, progressive supermajorities” in the rest of America.
In other words - tyranny. And make no mistake, if liberals seize control via supermajorities, and they aren’t all that far off, tyranny is how they enact their insane, unworkable policies on the rest of us. Because from Soviet Russia to Communist China and socialist Venezuela, that’s what always happens when Leftists have unadulterated power.
Granted, the idea of bringing up an issue that was seemingly settled over 150 years ago might be quick to dismiss, but in an era when people can’t even agree on whether Donald Trump is a real person or the actual, physical spawn of Satan, how can we possibly reach a consensus on anything? Which means that whatever we do, half the country isn’t just going to be unhappy, they’ll be apoplectic.
And these days, the idea isn’t just coming from the Right. The Calexit movement would secede California from the United States entirely, and it’s more financed and organized than you might think. Perhaps it’s time to give them what they want.
“[Conservatives’ reasons for splitting] would be a major cultural shift toward the left and half the country refusing to go along with tyranny,” writes Kelly. Liberals’ reasons might be a desire to run things their own way without the adults in the room interfering. But either way, the way I see it there are three possibilities for America’s future - unrest, tyranny, or divorce.
We’re already seeing the unrest, and it’s happening on a massive scale as liberals #Resist literally every move President Trump makes.
Should these jackals eventually get their “permanent Democratic majority,” we’ll certainly see the tyranny.
Which leaves the one other option, that put forward in Kelly’s controversial piece. Sure, it won’t be this year, or this decade, or probably even in my lifetime, but its eventual inevitability seems as ‘destined’ as America’s historic expansion to the Pacific.
“I know people with the same bizarre thinking. I’ve got a friend who besides many hunting rifles, shotguns, etc... owns several AR-15s, especially with illegal add-ons, like large clips, etc... “No one is taking my guns!” he will roar.
Then in the next breath, he will criticize the NRA, vote Democrat, promoted Hillary, etc.... Just bizarre. “
Does he work for the Gov? On SS? SSI? Gov pension?
The votes will be very close in most states and could change from year to year. Not as simple as you might think but thanks for your thoughts. We need to discuss this more and with a certain degree of civility.
“Just recently a California company closed up shop and moved to Texas. I think we shall see lot more of that in the future.”
I am seeing the same thing here in Colorado. Entrepreneurs starting new companies are looking to move Southeast. Denver has everything to offer a new company except that it also has far too many liberals that destroy young companies. I’m within a few months of launching a new company and I am desperately looking for ways to move it to the Thomasville, GA area, maybe Moultrie.
There are a lot of conservatives in Northern New England along with Constitutional Carry in all three New England States.
How about when "they" force them on your kids?
ML/NJ
Don’t you think the left would be anxious to get rid of us? Talk to them and you will find they blame us for every imaginable problem this country has and I think they would hold the door open and not let it hit us in the rear on the way out...LOL
Because the left are narcissistic tyrants who demand total control, think everything belongs to them, and wish to turn us into slaves physically and mentally, war is inevitable.
A free and just society must protect babies from murderers and children from sexual predators and perverts. It must allow people to serve God with freedom of conscience and protect them from hostility toward this freedom. The freedom to hold opinions and express them verbally and in writing is sacrosanct. The right to defend ones life, freedom, family, friends, and property is of paramount importance. The only way for these things to be reclaimed is war.
Those on the left who either cannot or will not escape the deception and mind control that has been perpetrated on our society must be rendered powerless by whatever means is necessary to do so.
And why do they get Washington DC?
All those statues of evil white men...?
That should go to us.
Yes, and look at Connecticut. General Electric was a staple in that state’s economy and it left and relocated because of the lunatic taxes and the lunatic governor.
It’s soooo corrupt, it’s best to let them have it and not re-infect the the rest of us....................
Excellent idea.
Just split it up county by county, city by city according to majority vote.
Remember - West Berlin survived over forty years as an isolated city on the bad side of the Iron Curtain.
Let the libs grow their own food on their own land.
And let them and dump their own garbage and sewage on their own land instead of shipping it to Alabama and other red states.
In less than 40 years they will over-govern themselves into obscurity.
“Connecticut.”
FAR too liberal and cold.
I'm very glad that you are but I'm not, at least not in any long term. The fundamental problem as I see it is that we "Makers" are being displaced by the "Takers".
Post # 44 should read....”with Constitutional Carry in all three NORTHERN New England States.....Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont (although Vermont has lost ground with that new bill that bans “high capacity” magazines and an end to private sales).
Yes true. Just look at the current “youth” protests to lead us all into the abyss. Some dismiss them, but I am not so sure.
So the libs will divorce us and then ask for alimony....
I agree. I'm hopeful but not optimistic because, unfortunately, I don't see this happening. One could argue that equal justice ended at Chappaquiddick.
Amicable? They are going to want custody and alimony
Check your premises, folks.
The left wants divorce because they aren't willing to accept any election they don't win. However, divorce to a lib means that they go their own way...but not you. What's theirs is theirs, what's yours is ours. Imagine a spouse who wants a divorce, yet refuses to move out.
If I believe that smoking is bad for my health, I quit. If a lib believes that smoking is bad for their health, no one will be allowed to smoke. Libs have no principles in the sense we understand the word, only causes. They only support that which advances the cause, as long as it advances the cause.
IOW, they claim an inherent right to tell everyone else how to live their lives.
There's no middle ground. It seems inevitable to me that at some point those who seek to live their own lives will face a choice...live free or die. Submit or fight. Those who would run your life will accept nothing less. Give them California, Oregon, Washington State, etc...you're feeding the alligator.
If as I believe that point is inevitable, we who have made the choice should execute it at a time and manner of our choosing, not theirs.
IMO, divorce would only work if done King Henry style.
I pick Success! Followed by bounty and riches
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