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We all know that scientists, doctors, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies make literally billions of dollars off of cancer patients. I believe that there have been and are several cures that have been found for cancer, yet the powerful FDA will not approve them because this disease has been made a goldmine at the cruel expense of people who are needlessly suffering. Money is the root of all evil, and Dear Lord I pray this horror be removed and the curing treatments be made free for all in judgement toward this wickedness in the healthcare system of the U.S.
1 posted on 04/19/2018 7:58:22 AM PDT by Patriot777
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Why cure it when there’s hundreds of billions to be made continuing research and treating it? My wife’s treatments cost over 40k a month.


2 posted on 04/19/2018 8:01:47 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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make literally billions of dollars off of cancer patients.

Much more.

3 posted on 04/19/2018 8:03:32 AM PDT by JonPreston (I post To: "All" because article posters rarely contribute to their own threads)
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OK, can we define the word “cure” as it applies to any disease ( much less cancer )?

What should the attributes be to meet the “cured” criteria?


4 posted on 04/19/2018 8:07:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I don’t know if cancer is a disease that can be cured.

Any Oncologist making this asinine statement should revert to general practice. It is akin to a NASA program manager in the 1960's saying "I don't know if we can really make it to the Moon."

5 posted on 04/19/2018 8:07:12 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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Visit any infusion center as I do every 8 weeks for Remicade. 3k a pop. Any number of chronic diseases being treated. These places are gold mines.

The key with any of it is maintenance of quality of life.


6 posted on 04/19/2018 8:07:53 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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Being conceived is a death sentence.


8 posted on 04/19/2018 8:08:57 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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I wish I had a like button. That’s all I’m going to say about that. The last time I made a comment like yours the flame throwers in here nearly set my britches on fire.


11 posted on 04/19/2018 8:13:54 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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Those lawyers are making a crapload of money.


13 posted on 04/19/2018 8:15:06 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Look at all the people who’d be out of work.


15 posted on 04/19/2018 8:16:23 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Bkmk


17 posted on 04/19/2018 8:18:12 AM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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The idea of “curing” cancer has always been BS.

Cancer takes so many forms, has so many components, physical, genetic, environmental, and add to that the fact that cancers mutate from one form to another and from one type of cell to another. The variations and conditions for cancer cells to grow make identifying a single point of commonality is nearly impossible.

There is not, as of yet, any prospect of one pill to kill them all that is anywhere on the horizon.

Like viruses, some of which generate cancers, cancer cells adapt and change to meet the challenge of treatments that are set up to kill the cancer.

I’ve only heard of one possibility that might show promise and that is a treatment that addresses a specific protein that researchers believe is common to all cancers. Even that protein is subject to possible alteration by the cancerous cells which will make the treatment null and void.

If a universal treatment is found, it is a long way off.


18 posted on 04/19/2018 8:18:52 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Without going into detail— as am way past an NDA and out of the “biz”.... you are mostly correct. The really big diseases— the killers: diabetes, cancer, and no 1— coronary disease (dyslipidemia, vascular stroke etc)-— are “danced” around. Except by true investigators who have uncovered the mechanisms.

A prime example of this is type 2 diabetes (not type 1): the chemical class of thiazolidinediones (Rezulin brand, first in the class of copycats)... was effective in reducing insulin resistance that Type 2 causes. It COULD have been dosed once a week but wasn’t because of marketing decisions. The per day dosing created liver toxicity while not improving the biochemical picture that spread out dosing could have safely provided. People got liver failure— the Tort lawyers (and HMOs and insurer/payors) got involved and the drug was pulled. Now we have moved on to other more toxic compounds.

Genius friend at Einstein Medical School shared this entire experience.. with deep regret and anger at FDA and their pals at competitive firms. This is how it is. Not unlike the “revolving door” seen from ex-military to the military industries, and how, for example great aircraft never come to be (for albeit different reasons than marketing/drug dosing/pricing issues). Rant over.

Similar example is available with the story of Inspra (class IV heart failure patient got out of bed and walked to the mailbox- but their hearts were so damaged previous to treatment, they couldn’t stand the strain). The issue there was... “quality of life, feeling better even as one is clearly not cured” vs. “count the bodies— does this reduce death by heart failure”. Sign of our times still. that and govt. controlled medical legal system— aka obamaumaocare. Now with the genome project— the nazis are still at it.


22 posted on 04/19/2018 8:26:57 AM PDT by John S Mosby (SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS)
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Of course not. There is no money in the cure. I pray for God to expose the wickedness, greed and corruption of the cancer industry.

I too believe there are already several known cancer cures. Maybe nit for all types, but many types. Case in point. Ex Pesdient Jimmy Carter at 90 years old had metastic cancer in his liver and brain and somehow he beat it when 30 year olds die from the same thing? Only the special elites get the cure. Wont be surprised to see McCain “beat” his cancer too.


23 posted on 04/19/2018 8:28:32 AM PDT by Angels27
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Research is incredibly expensive by its nature, and those of us who are in research would, no doubt, earn far more money if we would have gone into any number of other professions. But we choose to do research because we genuinely care about finding cures for diseases. I do not know anyone who has become wealthy from research.

The belief that there are suppressed cures for cancer is promoted by those who generally have no medical training, but see an opportunity to profit from people who are facing truly devastating illnesses by selling them snake oil and worthless books promising miracle cures. Those profiteers are scum, the lowest of low life.

The reality is that there are over a hundred diseases lumped under the name “cancer” and that each one has to be researched separately, because one size does not fit all. The more we understand about each disease, the closer we get to an effective treatment. And that takes a lot of time and money. Uncovering new knowledge takes time. Training people with the specialized skill sets they need to do research is time-consuming and costly. And the machines and materials for research are expensive. Many of the enzymes or reagents make gold and platinum look dirt cheap by comparison. This is because of the effort and material needed to produce them.

One enzyme I used often in graduate school cost over $1,000 per gram, or about $454,000 per pound. And that was one of the cheap ones.

Your kind of conspiracy theorizing does not help anyone at all.


24 posted on 04/19/2018 8:28:35 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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In the case of diabetes— curing it would put vast numbers of “treatment” money makers out of a job: toenail clippers, debriding techs for peripheral vascular damaged feet, kidney dialysis for type 2 diabetic microvascular-damaged kidneys to filter blood. In short billions of dollars of ancillary treatment.... ameliorative care would be at a minimum, reduced and possibly eliminated.

Rant 2 over. imho.


26 posted on 04/19/2018 8:29:50 AM PDT by John S Mosby (SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS)
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Cancer is a by product of old age, the longer you live the more likely you are to get it, and live long enough eventually you’ll get it. And there is no cure for old age.


27 posted on 04/19/2018 8:31:16 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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I thought Joe Biden was heading up a task force to marshall all government resources to find a cure... say it ain’t so, Joe!


28 posted on 04/19/2018 8:37:51 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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Keeping people alive long enough to get more $$$$$$$ out of them is the goal. A cure would mean no money.


29 posted on 04/19/2018 8:38:33 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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And then there are THESE "cancers" that plague our society.

I've lost my father, brother-in-law and friends to cancer, and now my brother(see tag)is fighting his own battle, along with my nephew.

What I find interesting is a couple of decades ago when HIV/AIDS was all over the news, talk shows, etc. It was talked about like it WAS a plague that was sweeping the world and we needed to do anything and everything to stop it(including perhaps redirecting cancer research federal funding...while cancer rates were soaring, particularly among children).

Now your rarely hear about HIV/AIDS...so was it just a "fad" disease, or did someone(quietly)find a cure?

And don't show me "Gov." statistics that might say otherwise about cancer rates...seeing is believing, dealing with it makes it real...and Gov. lies and is corrupt...not unlike the original "plague" in this post.

30 posted on 04/19/2018 8:39:14 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken)
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No major disease has been cured since polio. That little “mistake” cost the medical community trillions. They won’t be stupid enough to do that again.


34 posted on 04/19/2018 8:43:58 AM PDT by albie
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