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How does an engine just suddenly blow up?

I am thinking the turbine blade housing came apart.

Strict maintenance and part replacement schedules are designed to prevent such failures.

Could it be defective Chinese steel?


3 posted on 04/17/2018 1:49:20 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Could it be defective Chinese steel?

It wouldn't surprise me.

4 posted on 04/17/2018 1:54:08 PM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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Really? The body isn’t even cold yet and you’re trying to figure out who to blame?

Sure, I’ll play along. Yes, it could have been defective Chinese steel. Or maybe the Russians hacked the engine. Or maybe the Muslims sabotaged it somehow. I think that covers the major boogeymen. Perhaps we should move on to the minor ones?


5 posted on 04/17/2018 1:55:12 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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Sounds like one of the blades on the engine separated. The ring that is supposed to catch faulty loose parts failed. How awful.


6 posted on 04/17/2018 1:55:21 PM PDT by blu (Save us the time of explaining the links...read the article...unless you're Lazamatz.)
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Would certainly be interesting to know.

RIP.


9 posted on 04/17/2018 1:55:31 PM PDT by onedoug
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I was in an L-1011 out of Calgary when a strut
came loose and was sucked into its engine, breaking
turbine blades as it went. The plane shuddered
and the blades breaking sounded like a machine gun
being fired. My thought on the possibility of life
being over was, “Well, it’s been nice.”


12 posted on 04/17/2018 1:56:30 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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No, the turbine blades are made from inconel, primarily a nickle based super alloy and a cast iron Hillary to work with in the machining end of things. Those things are tested in QC seven ways to Sunday before they ever see the inside of a turbine. Each batch is so stringent in their testing I doubt anyone would rely on a non-domestic source like China for their material for this exact reason.

I think that people really forget exactly the billions of miles we put on those things and just how much force is being contained and directed there, the speed of those things. We take it for granted that they will always be functioning without a hickup, and sometimes things like this just happen and we never really know what caused the failure.


18 posted on 04/17/2018 2:01:19 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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There had been an alert to watch out for counterfeit aircraft bolts some years back.


30 posted on 04/17/2018 2:05:41 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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Catastrophic failure. This type of event is so rare, but nothing is perfect.

I used to test-run them - not for the faint of heart.

31 posted on 04/17/2018 2:05:53 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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The best laid plans of mice and men.


87 posted on 04/17/2018 2:31:40 PM PDT by carmen2017
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turbine blades are not steel but rather nickel based super alloys


92 posted on 04/17/2018 2:34:01 PM PDT by bert (RE)
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It could be defective Chinese steel and coins.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40421811


98 posted on 04/17/2018 2:44:35 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama)
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How does an engine just suddenly blow up?

In this case S#!t happened. When the engine is spinning at operational RPMs anything that upsets the balance can be catastrophic. A bearing could fail, a turbine bucket fails, it happens and is not all that uncommon.

The engine housing is designed to help contain the parts as they spray around but that is not failsafe.

The NTSB will definitely look at the maintenance records. The high stress components are inspected visually almost every week and undergo NDI check periodically. Military engines are scrutinized much more carefully than their civilian counterparts. Military places a premium on reliability, airlines, profit.

99 posted on 04/17/2018 2:47:05 PM PDT by pfflier
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There are big heavy disks that hold the blades in place. The section that blew apart here is the bypass fan...those are the big blades you see at the front of the engine. There are a lot of root causes for fan, compressor and turbine disks to fail. Usually a single blade let’s go, often taking out other blades, but the whole fan disk doesn’t disintegrate. Seems like there have been two or three fan disk failures per year the last few years. This looks like catastrophic failure of the fan disk as the entire fan is gone. What is remarkable is that the ruptured fandango doesn’t cascade backward through the compressor and turbine.


111 posted on 04/17/2018 3:08:20 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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It would be my guess that it’s more likely to be made out of titanium than steel.


121 posted on 04/17/2018 3:21:43 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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The blades are not made of steel.


130 posted on 04/17/2018 3:44:03 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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There have been unscrupulous sellers who will take an out of spec scrap part and put a serviceable tag on it and sell it.


162 posted on 04/17/2018 4:40:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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Looks like a JT8D-200 series engine, manufactured by Pratt & Whitney. I believe a like a fan blade failure occurred, perhaps from a bird strike. Appears that the containment case failed.


179 posted on 04/17/2018 5:49:36 PM PDT by JME_FAN
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On the news, it said the very same accident has happened on this airline before, but with no casualties. So as a Freeper suggest, if you travel this airline, DON’T sit by the engine.


186 posted on 04/17/2018 5:58:08 PM PDT by kiltie65
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I am thinking the turbine blade housing came apart.

One fan or compressor blade becoming unbalanced for any reason, or foreign body damage to a blade causing a harmonic vibration and domino effect on other blades, or over RPM. So many things, their mechanics will know with just a cursory look and data recorder. The pilots did a helluva job setting it down

Excerpt from below link

There are only two solid rules regarding jet engines; The airflow through the engine can never exceed the speed of sound and the maximum RPM isn't far from the point where the engine starts slinging compressor blades.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070209211033AA1JPw3

195 posted on 04/17/2018 6:29:34 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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Fan blades break...it used to happen occasionally. UAL 232 (Sioux City) was a fan blade disintegration that severed the hydraulics lines in the tail. Remember the old B-727s that had the engines side by side at the tail? Everybody wanted to sit in those rear seats for the leg room...they were the most dangerous seats on that plane, with your head right next to an engine.


214 posted on 04/17/2018 8:53:34 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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