Posted on 03/27/2018 7:02:16 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
Companies are realizing that they have to train new workers to learn job skills that they failed to learn in college, according to a new Wall Street Journal report. A new column published last week in the Wall Street Journal revealed that a four-year college degree might actually hinder an employee’s readiness to complete job-specific tasks after hiring.
The report revealed that AT&T is spending more than $1 billion to train their employees on how to perform various tasks at the evolving telecommunications company. Some attribute this to the amount of time new employees spend in college learning skills that they will never apply on the job.
According to employer surveys, only half of college graduates end up landing a job that allows them to utilize the skills they learned in their degree program.
Some employers have encouraged reliance on bachelor’s degrees as a proxy for skills by requiring a diploma for jobs that didn’t previously require one, Mr. Fuller said. But such degree requirements are limiting the number of applicants for a job and increasing costs for companies and employees. They also lead to frustration for workers, since fewer than half of people who enroll in college end up graduating and landing a job that utilizes their degree, he said.
Some, including Dr. Ed Schweitzer, a former electrical engineering professor, argues that the current educational system may prevent great minds from breaking into the field in which they could make a great impact.
“If Thomas Edison walked through the door today, would we turn him away because we don’t have a job opening for an inventor?” Dr. Schweitzer said.
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I see it with engineering students who can’t read prints because all they know is how to use CAD.
The manufacturing floor needs the prints for inspection and setup purposes but the design rules are already setup in the software so the engineers don’t learn how to think for themselves in a lot of cases.
Then when something isn’t manufacturable due to conflicting specs, interference fits, overlapping tolerances, etc (basic GD&T stuff) they try to say it’s a manufacturing issue.
Basic skills are being passed over for “advanced” stuff and it ends up they don’t learn enough to make simple decisions and tradeoffs.
Go in the military and learn a skill. You get paid and you are not racking up debt.
Universities used to start at age 14——before the Marxists and Fabian Socialists turned Western “education” systems (Classical Christian curricula) into indoctrination systems which destroyed elementary “education” so that children would be ignorant and unable to think for themselves and infantilized (dependent) and not even “know” if they were boys or girls. Common Sense and independence would be erased. They would just end up dehumanized drones being totally managed and controlled by corporations, and habituated into immoral, stupid slavery for the elite pedophiles who control the system.
I checked into one of those programs.
Apparently I was deemed too stuck in IT to do much with.
Oh well.
“WSJ: Companies Have to Teach Workers Skills that They Didn’t Learn in College”
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Like Americanism, human decency,Non-indoctrination, unsocial engineering, 3 Rs!,etc, etc........!
Let's look at electrical engineering and computer science, for instance. Now if you want someone who can run an Excel spreadsheet or manage your office network, or put in a new electrical outlet or some such, you don't need a degreed electrical engineer and no serious university teaches those things. They are trades.
Want a custom logic board for a controller for a proprietary system, or want a new algorithm for digital signal processing and you need at least a BS and probably an MS degree.
If employers are demanding college degrees rather than just smart trainable people, well they have themselves to blame, and the start of the blame is probably their HR manager who is inevitably an idiot and a hack - they all are.
They can’t find enough people to even enter the program, much less graduate from it.
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25 years ago, DS got a HVAC cert from a trade school. He makes more than most of the instructors at the college he maintains. After graduation, he has never been unemployed.
TWB
The purpose of college is to train you how to think, so that once you’re out of college it’s easy to acquire the on-the-job skills.
So true.
Knowing what we all know, why do parents allow their kids to take out these crazy loans? Of course, we have parents like those of David Hogg’s who apparently don’t mind their kids cursing up a storm on tv.
It's not about specific skills for the individual companies but basic educational skills like reading, math, writing, etc. that everyone should know.
But these kids sure do know all about their safe-spaces, triggering words and actions, spotting microaggressions, blocking opposing speech, indoctrinating themselves in socialist revolution and "feeling good" about themselves.
Colleges and universities nowadays are about indoctrination, not education.
How many people want to work 80 feet in the air touch 40,000 volt power lines?
As I have pointed out many, many times on these threads.....
Corporate employers are NAIVE FOOLS who believe that candidates pop out of universities 100% ready to go to work and not requiring a dime or ten minutes investment in ANY training.
That is because they have ABSOLUTELY DRUNK ALL THE KOOL-AID that has been served up to them by the education establishment.
It was always a fallacy. It’s just now becoming more obvious.
Such as being able to read cursive?
I wouldn’t for the world trade my double B.A. in Anthro/Soc and Religion. I cherish the life long learning triggered and enhanced by my classical “liberal” education. When I went to college in the late 60’s and early 70’s, all classes in the various disciplines were rigorous.
I have since had three entirely different careers that were made possible only because I have “learned how to learn.” My recreational reading and pursuits have similarly been enriched.
That said, college is not for everybody. In fact, other posters are correct, way too much money is wasted by way too many students on a traditional four-year university. Business should train their own employees and not expect someone else to do it for them. Vocational schools should be the normal way for most students to extend their education after high school.
My own children graduated from highly regarded universities and were debt free a few years after graduated. Both are gainfully well employed in areas outside their majors in college.
That’s just my opinion based on my own experiences.
You have to be smart, skilled and brave!
Even in the hard sciences, college is merely foundational work. I learned more in 4 weeks of OTJ engineering than getting a BSME, but I could never have stepped up to the plate without the BSME.
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I’ll Roger that!!
It is called on the job training, everybody goes through it.
I think the most underutilized job training institution is the US Military.
Amen.
The US Air Force gave me free aptitude testing (ASVAB) and training in a field that was a good match (electronics).
I then got 9 years of work experience while working toward a BS in Aviation Science & Electronics.
They then tested me again (AFOQT) and assigned me to jobs using and expanding my education and experience.
A few years later, they sent me full-time to get my MS.
Don’t worry once you have a job HR will fill your brain up with the BS
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