Posted on 03/02/2018 8:41:36 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
about a third of all states ban discrimination based on age in places of public accommodation, and some of those statutes may well ban refusal to sell guns to 18-to-20-year-olds. ...Likewise, some cities and counties have similar ordinances (even if their states don't)
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I suspect that they can. FFLs have wide latitude in refusing to sell.
Federal law allows a firearms dealer to refuse sale for ANY reason. I know, I used to work for one, and had refused a few sales to people who disturbed me as being potentially off-kilter. Just a gut feeling, but the law said I could do it.
Yes probably. With the exception of Fast and Furious where ffls were ordered to complete sales to the cartels, the nics system does not order a sale to proceed, it only authorizes it. The individual FFL Holder can always decide to not complete a sale and there’s no liability for it.
Otherwise the government provides the FFL the ability to throw their hands up and say “I had no choice but to deliver the firearm for money because the government ordered me to complete the sale”.
FReeper Windflier has spoken about something similar though with the DACA people.
We are creating a tiered citizenship structure.
Where citizens are only granted their rights after a certain age or certain requirements have been met by the powers that be.
Question for the gathered:
How does a regulatory background check not infringe my RKBA when I have to cede my 5A guarantee of self-incrimination to purchase a firearm?
Raise the gun-owning age to 21, then automatically we should raise the voting age to 21, driving age to 21, military service age to 21.
It will at least serve the Left’s purpose of keeping everyone a child as long as possible.
Sell to all legal buyers over 18, else to none. Hopefully someone will sue one of these companies and get precidence set that 18 is age and discrimination to no respect it. Long overdue.
Their loss will be someone else’s gain. Sale will move to another store. Supply and demand. And if they completely cut off legal supply, the illegal will do just fine.
It has in the hood for decades. No problem solved, but a liberal feels good, that’s what it is all about.
If you’re a felon, then the 5th protects you. Registration is only applicable to law-abiding citizens.
If you have a draft card and no felony arrests, you should be able to buy a gun.
I understand and would not argue against what you had to obey in the law.
However, the 2nd Amendment says that a person’s RKBA cannot be infringed, in part expressly because of a person’s responsibility to the militia. As has been pointed out elsewhere, in US Code the militia specifically includes all men 17 to 45 YO.
Therefore, a law that gives sellers the right to infringe on a person in that age category from his RKBA is an invalid law because it violates the US Constitution.
Just a thought.
I don’t know American law at all, but I did wonder how Walmart would pull this off.
I used to be a property manager and preferred to rent to people over 25 years of age. Well, there’s no way I could do it once the law said so. If the law says 18, and Walmart says 21, what’s the point of having a law? It’s meaningless.
There are thousands if not millions of teens throughout the nation who have guns for hunting and plinking. They are responsible owners who enjoy the outdoors. They live in the block red counties on the electoral maps, their parents voted for Trump. For country kids, this is an age old custom and a good one. Many volunteer for the armed forces and drill sergeants love them for they are already good with firearms. If the age for owning or purchasing firearms is raised to 21 it will make them illegal owners and seriously have a negative affect on millions of Trump supporters.
Besides, these matters should be the responsibility of the various states, not the feds, IMO.
Sure. Just like a bakery can refuse to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple.
Well, of course they can, unless...
It’s a 19 year old, same sex couple, and they want to give each other a matching set of “His & His” or “Her & Her” Ruger 10/22s...
“Raise the gun-owning age to 21, then automatically we should raise the voting age to 21, driving age to 21, military service age to 21.”
Yep. And if you are not competent enough to own a weapon, you are not competent enough to vote, period, not matter your age.
Gimme a break. When are we going to cut this garbage called “anti-discrimination” which is diametrically opposed to freedom of association, enshrined in the 4th Amendment?
Background checks aren’t self incrimination. They’re looking for existing data already in government databases, you’ve already been incriminated on that stuff.
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