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MSNBC Host: Handgun Bullets Are Ineffective In Stopping School Shooters Because They're Too Slow
Townhall.com ^ | February 26, 2018 | Matt Vespa,

Posted on 02/26/2018 1:34:23 PM PST by Kaslin

Talk about a facepalm moment. Is it the media’s stupidity or stacking sandbags because they know this National Rifle Association initiative could gain traction? You decide. The NRA wants more armed guards in schools. Teachers should be allowed to carry as well. After the tragic Sandy Hook shooting, the school board voted to approve this proposal. This is not an alien concept. A lot of schools have resource officers; Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the site of the most recent school shooting on February 14, had such officers. They failed to engage the shooter, Nikolas Cruz. Scores of teachers in Ohio are signing up for gun training courses to obtain their concealed carry permits. So, since the NRA is akin to ISIS in the minds of the liberal media, what do you do? Well, if you’re MSNBC, apparently it’s to make the argument that handguns aren’t effective in stopping shooters, who are armed with rifles, because the bullets from pistols are too slow.  I will repeat that: handgun ammunition travels so slow that its ineffective at stopping someone armed with a rifle (via Daily Caller):

MSNBC anchors are claiming that teachers armed with handguns would be unable to stop a school shooter because rifles shoot “three times faster.”

Anchor Lawrence O’Donnell said on his show Thursday night that “a bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun…and yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter.”

Lawrence: A bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun.

And yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter https://t.co/heze69kRDU— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 23, 2018

Yeah, there is a difference, but we’re talking tenths of a second here. Also, veteran J.R. Salzman seemed confused with this narrative: didn’t two Capitol Police officers stop a shooter from assassinating scores of Republicans in Alexandria as they were practicing for the annual congressional baseball game? Uh, yeah—they did. They confronted the shooter, they engaged him; he turned out to be a Bernie Sanders supporter, and they neutralized the threat. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) was almost killed in the attack. 

Where did this BS narrative come from that you can’t stop a rifle with a handgun? When has that ever been a thing? Are people’s memories really so short they don’t remember Capital Police stopping a Bernie bro with an SKS shooting at congressman on a baseball field?— J.R. Salzman (@jrsalzman) February 25, 2018

This is the reason why the media will always lose the Second Amendment fight. Millions of Americans own firearms. They know the caliber, they know its capabilities, and they also know what the proper terminology is (i.e. automatic vs. semiautomatic). I’m not talking super technical gunsmith jargon, just basic details about the gun. They know what they have and the media’s pervasive failure to learn what they’re talking about will never allow them to win over Americans they need to change the nature of gun politics. That’s because the alternative floated by the Left is straight up gun confiscation, evisceration of the Second Amendment, and the stripping of American civil rights. That’s also another reason why they’ll never win. We know their game. It’s this type of trash peddled by MSNBC that makes for great entertainment. 


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To: Kaslin

“MSNBC anchors are claiming that teachers armed with handguns would be unable to stop a school shooter because rifles shoot “three times faster.”


An example of ignorance at it finest.


121 posted on 02/26/2018 3:40:52 PM PST by Yulee
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To: miliantnutcase

a 5.7 will be there in millisecond


122 posted on 02/26/2018 3:44:08 PM PST by Sir Beowolf (Beware! it's a different world,The Republic is crying for Help.)
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To: Mears

https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/msnbc-anchor-lawrence-odonnells-angry-off-camera-meltdown-leaked-watch-viral-video-1753743

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusive-watch-msnbcs-lawrence-odonnells-unhinged-outtakes-for-eight-crazy-minutes/

Hope this works!


123 posted on 02/26/2018 3:45:02 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Kaslin

The only handgun he ever fired would’ve been a nerf gun.


124 posted on 02/26/2018 3:45:03 PM PST by robel
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To: RatRipper

“Doesn’t much matter if the truck that hits you is going 30 mph or 90 mph, you are still gonna die.”

If the truck that hit my brother had been going 90 my brother would not have lived.


125 posted on 02/26/2018 3:45:51 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: mdmathis6

That’s the perennial joke. Guess it must be made of kryptonite.


126 posted on 02/26/2018 3:46:04 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: Celerity

You have an FN pistol?
I’m dreaming of one - please share your experience if you do. PM me if you like.


127 posted on 02/26/2018 3:47:05 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: robel

ONE handgun bullet to the head is HIGHLY effective, what a CRAP SANDWICH this article is!!!!!


128 posted on 02/26/2018 3:47:14 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Kaslin

You just have to be a quick draw to beat the rifle bullet!


129 posted on 02/26/2018 3:55:42 PM PST by Davy Crocket
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To: Kaslin

The stupid; it burns!


130 posted on 02/26/2018 4:05:22 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: savedbygrace
"O’Donnell is the lying liar who lies. Remember that rant he burst out with about the Swiftboaters?"

Let's make your point, using simple college physics...

Anchor Lawrence O’Donnell said on his show Thursday night that “a bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun…and yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter.

First, we do know that muzzle velocities vary among bullets from different cartridges of the same caliber, but let's just say that this "3 x faster" is correct.

Let's also say that the most common weight of a .223 bullet is 55 grains; and, that the most common weight of, say a .40 S and W pistol bullet is 165 grains.

So, 3 times as fast, and 1/3 as heavy.

And now, for people who have never heard of Newton's Second Law of Motion (raise your hand, O' Donnell) it is...

F=ma, where F = force, m = mass (weight, for Mr. O' Donnell) and a = acceleration Think feet per second, here.

Thus, 3 x speed at 1/3 mass, the .223 rifle bullet impact force is equivalent to the .40 pistol bullet. The forces of impact between the bullets of the black rifle .224 and the .40 handgun are, in fact, quite close.

There are, of course, modifying factors. The shape and type of bullets, and the distance from the target among them.

Mister O'Donnell parades his ignorance as if he were streaking it.

131 posted on 02/26/2018 4:06:10 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Kaslin

Now that right there is a picture of a f*****g idiot on TV.


132 posted on 02/26/2018 4:08:56 PM PST by OKSooner (Joan Rivers, RIP)
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To: Kaslin

Same folks that thik buying 2 lottery tickets doubles your odds of winning. Or how about putting a big air basw on the side of an island wouldmcquse it to tip over. The problem isn’t Lawrence O’donnal...the problem is the number of people that believe him. He should have been laughed off of the channel. Why wasn’t he? His listeners are dumber than he is.


133 posted on 02/26/2018 4:10:16 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Thanks——I absolutely DETEST this guy.

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134 posted on 02/26/2018 4:12:31 PM PST by Mears
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To: Kaslin

Larry should try to outrun one of thos “slow” bullets.


135 posted on 02/26/2018 4:12:59 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Seaplaner

I haven’t done the math, but I suspect the time difference at 30 feet is less than 1/10,000 sec. But it actually is less than that if you use the correct numbers.


136 posted on 02/26/2018 4:13:30 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Mears

I actually like Obama better than him - that says a lot!


137 posted on 02/26/2018 4:15:13 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Kaslin

It’s amazing how stupid people can be and still walk upright.

5.56mm


138 posted on 02/26/2018 4:15:28 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Kaslin

Is this loud mouth really THAT stupid?????? As one who has been hit by a gun shot, I can guarantee you it is not too slow and it will stop you. This was in Vietnam and it does move fast and does stop you. AND, if it is hollow points, I guarantee you it will stop you, slow or fast.


139 posted on 02/26/2018 4:17:40 PM PST by RetiredArmy (We are in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! Do U know Him?)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Wonderful sarcasm. I love it. Bravo.


140 posted on 02/26/2018 4:19:41 PM PST by Kudsman ( Anyone to the Right of Stalin is a Far Right Wing candidate to the Far Left Wing Media.)
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