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MSNBC Host: Handgun Bullets Are Ineffective In Stopping School Shooters Because They're Too Slow
Townhall.com ^ | February 26, 2018 | Matt Vespa,

Posted on 02/26/2018 1:34:23 PM PST by Kaslin

Talk about a facepalm moment. Is it the media’s stupidity or stacking sandbags because they know this National Rifle Association initiative could gain traction? You decide. The NRA wants more armed guards in schools. Teachers should be allowed to carry as well. After the tragic Sandy Hook shooting, the school board voted to approve this proposal. This is not an alien concept. A lot of schools have resource officers; Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the site of the most recent school shooting on February 14, had such officers. They failed to engage the shooter, Nikolas Cruz. Scores of teachers in Ohio are signing up for gun training courses to obtain their concealed carry permits. So, since the NRA is akin to ISIS in the minds of the liberal media, what do you do? Well, if you’re MSNBC, apparently it’s to make the argument that handguns aren’t effective in stopping shooters, who are armed with rifles, because the bullets from pistols are too slow.  I will repeat that: handgun ammunition travels so slow that its ineffective at stopping someone armed with a rifle (via Daily Caller):

MSNBC anchors are claiming that teachers armed with handguns would be unable to stop a school shooter because rifles shoot “three times faster.”

Anchor Lawrence O’Donnell said on his show Thursday night that “a bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun…and yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter.”

Lawrence: A bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun.

And yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter https://t.co/heze69kRDU— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 23, 2018

Yeah, there is a difference, but we’re talking tenths of a second here. Also, veteran J.R. Salzman seemed confused with this narrative: didn’t two Capitol Police officers stop a shooter from assassinating scores of Republicans in Alexandria as they were practicing for the annual congressional baseball game? Uh, yeah—they did. They confronted the shooter, they engaged him; he turned out to be a Bernie Sanders supporter, and they neutralized the threat. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) was almost killed in the attack. 

Where did this BS narrative come from that you can’t stop a rifle with a handgun? When has that ever been a thing? Are people’s memories really so short they don’t remember Capital Police stopping a Bernie bro with an SKS shooting at congressman on a baseball field?— J.R. Salzman (@jrsalzman) February 25, 2018

This is the reason why the media will always lose the Second Amendment fight. Millions of Americans own firearms. They know the caliber, they know its capabilities, and they also know what the proper terminology is (i.e. automatic vs. semiautomatic). I’m not talking super technical gunsmith jargon, just basic details about the gun. They know what they have and the media’s pervasive failure to learn what they’re talking about will never allow them to win over Americans they need to change the nature of gun politics. That’s because the alternative floated by the Left is straight up gun confiscation, evisceration of the Second Amendment, and the stripping of American civil rights. That’s also another reason why they’ll never win. We know their game. It’s this type of trash peddled by MSNBC that makes for great entertainment. 


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To: Pontiac

Excellent point.


81 posted on 02/26/2018 2:16:47 PM PST by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Could you post those links again,please?

Thanks.


82 posted on 02/26/2018 2:17:25 PM PST by Mears
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To: Kaslin

If only the cops would buy faster bullets we would all be safe.


83 posted on 02/26/2018 2:18:57 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Kaslin

Dumber than a bullet.


84 posted on 02/26/2018 2:19:31 PM PST by mulligan (The)
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To: 1Old Pro

They must have an NRA mole who is writing copy for MSNBC and having the time of his life. LMAO!


85 posted on 02/26/2018 2:19:39 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: nomorelurker

Didn’t want to get his suit dirty


86 posted on 02/26/2018 2:23:26 PM PST by Blogger (The causes are the left are never about caring about an issue. ItÂ’s always about power.)
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To: Kaslin
All that being said, is it actually credible to assume that deputies don’t have long guns in their car trunks???

Who drives to an active shooter situation without taking a long gun??


87 posted on 02/26/2018 2:24:49 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Vaquero

I know it was a low budget show, but couldn’t they have just shot George catching the gun and then cut to him crushing a balsawood prop or something?


88 posted on 02/26/2018 2:25:35 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

I wake up at night in a cold sweat about the ending scene in “The Dark Tower”

he fired a bullet, then a second bullet that ricocheted off a duct and HIT the first bullet, changing it’s direction.

My jaw was dropped. Not because of the fantasy aspect of it but because of the stupidity.

But, that said there are a TON of people in my shooting classes who have aimed very, very low because they believe the muzzle lift of the gun itself makes it go up. I have to explain that the bullet is in the target and beginning to cool off before that muzzle lifts. They can’t wrap their heads around that kind of speed. It’s tough.

I mean have a tough time thinking about the rotation of the earth in long-distance shots. I know it’s a thing but I can’t believe that it moves that much, in that short amount of time.


89 posted on 02/26/2018 2:26:03 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“We’re back to caliber wars again.”

Please, PLEASE pray that Gabby Giffords stays the hell home.

I was so sick of the 5.7 debate I was ready to move to Iceland. Those guns are one of the best things ever invented.


90 posted on 02/26/2018 2:27:48 PM PST by Celerity
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To: miliantnutcase

“a .45 handgun round will stop the bad guy (within short ranges) better than a fast moving .223 any day of the week.”

And in close quarters, a handgun is much easier to bring to bear on a target than a rifle.

And the latest bull$hit coming from the Coward County Sheriff’s Office is that the SRO thought it was “outside fireworks,” which caused him to hide behind a car with his gun drawn.


91 posted on 02/26/2018 2:28:18 PM PST by vette6387
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To: alloysteel
A .22LR slug, lodged in the right place in the human body, and probably has not exited,

Damn near killed President Reagan
92 posted on 02/26/2018 2:31:58 PM PST by uncbob
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To: nomorelurker

Ah. It that question has baffled humanity for 60+ years.


93 posted on 02/26/2018 2:32:22 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: SpinnerWebb
Thank you for the education.

That was a superbly worded non sequitur at least equal to that over paid spinner of lies; Lawrence O’Donnell.

Unless O’Donnell came up with that beauty of scientific balderdash himself he may be looking for a new writer/producer. Maybe you should consider applying.

😉

94 posted on 02/26/2018 2:33:19 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Did you really mean credible, or did you mean incredible?


95 posted on 02/26/2018 2:33:39 PM PST by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero)
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To: Blogger

I think I’m going to join the conspiracy cabal around here and postulate the gun had Kryptonite handles.


96 posted on 02/26/2018 2:33:45 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I thing he bent up a few guns. One or two slipped through the editors.

Or. The gun was fashioned from blued kryptonite.


97 posted on 02/26/2018 2:35:13 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: savedbygrace
Remember that rant he burst out with about the Swiftboaters?

Yep that was the most childish performance I ever witnessed
98 posted on 02/26/2018 2:35:31 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Kaslin

Let’s see: spray and pray vs.a trained shooter who hits 1” groups at 25 yards?


99 posted on 02/26/2018 2:37:43 PM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Kaslin

Next thing they’ll want to do is ban “cop killer bullets”!..oh wait


100 posted on 02/26/2018 2:38:02 PM PST by shotgun
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