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Trump Opens Door to National Gun Registry with Proposed Gun Controls
Brietbart ^ | 22 Feb 2018 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 02/22/2018 1:06:43 PM PST by skimbell

"...Although there is a lack of clarity on what Trump means by “comprehensive background checks,” as to whether he is referencing an overhaul of our current system or is pushing the universal background checks lauded by Democrats, it is important to note that this represents a turning point which opens the door to a national gun registry.

This is so because universal background checks are not enforceable without a gun registry.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 4dchess; 5movesahead; banglist; dontworrylibs; guncontrol; maga; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; nra; pearlclutchers; secondamendment; trump
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To: skimbell

“Must be some more of that 23 dimension chess or something.”

Nope, more like a classic political tactic called “Christmas tree-ing” where more baubles and tinsel are added to the tree until it falls of its own weight. In this case, appearing to give lots of sides just what they want, it falls of its own weight because one side hates what the other side is getting so much that they are willing for the entire thing to fail.


61 posted on 02/22/2018 2:14:38 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: skimbell

“Heading for a “one termer”.”

Let’s watch ‘immigration’. If Trump folds on that, then he’ll likely fold on gun control. So far Trump has proposed a reasonable compromise on immigration (at least in the opinion of most of us here) - all sides get something, but all sides lose something. If Trump moves Left from there...we won’t like it, one bit - as he would have folded

Assuming immigration works out (either he gets everything his way, or everything dies...which is also fine by our side), then expect the same for gun control. He’ll say nice, leftist-sounding words, but then moves back to our side when push comes to shove.

So time will tell.


62 posted on 02/22/2018 2:17:47 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: SkyDancer

“So it’d be all voluntary to register? What happens if you have a boating accident or a tornado in the mid-west?”

Probably nothing, but don’t EVER think of using your gun in self-defense, if it’s not registered. Or even showing it to anyone, including a spouse, who might just turn you in. You will get JAILED.


63 posted on 02/22/2018 2:20:23 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: SkyDancer

I’ll give you an example of BATFE’s elephantine memory.

I was headed for Germany in 1981 & took along my S&W .38 snubnose. Three years later my tour was up & I realized the Chiefs Special was nonimportable unless I could prove I had brought it from stateside.

I wrote to BATFE & asked for a letter verifying that I had bought the gun in 1973. They sent me a nice letter with the serial #, date AND time it was transferred, and which K-Mart I had bought it in. Went through customs, no problemo.

That’s ten years later.....


64 posted on 02/22/2018 2:20:39 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: skimbell

I agree that “universal background checks” would require a gun registry—which is a nonstarter.

But he said “comprehensive background checks.” What the heck does that mean?


65 posted on 02/22/2018 2:28:49 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Sacajaweau
"Make a National Register and your gun is legal in every state."

It seems to me it would be much easier and much more Consitutional to just have a registry of people who aren't allowed to own guns.

66 posted on 02/22/2018 2:28:59 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: skimbell

An national registry of criminals and nutcases is not the same thing as a gun registry.


67 posted on 02/22/2018 2:30:22 PM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: skimbell

Whoraldo was profusely praising Trump today....ungh.

I fear that the libs have discovered an old Trump weakness and are going all out to exploit it...

“Anything fur the cheeeldruns,” even if it’s foolish.


68 posted on 02/22/2018 2:31:59 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: goldstategop

I’m sure too, but gosh the sound of knocking knees is getting deafening again.


69 posted on 02/22/2018 2:37:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: elcid1970

Don’t know what to tell you. I saw the web page and there was nothing showing.


70 posted on 02/22/2018 2:37:46 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: BobL

What’s the expression about being carried by six or judged by twelve?


71 posted on 02/22/2018 2:38:33 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yeh I don’t think so either. Nobody would do it anyway.


72 posted on 02/22/2018 2:39:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SkyDancer

Who says you’ll be judged by 12, once we can’t fight back. More like ‘judged by one’ - a Leftist judge.


73 posted on 02/22/2018 2:42:40 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: i_robot73

Criminals have no problem getting guns in CA and the average LEO on the street doesn’t know a fraction of CA gun laws.


74 posted on 02/22/2018 2:46:04 PM PST by umgud
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To: skimbell
Trump probably thinks he can do like he did with the "Dreamers" and propose something the democrats will insist is insufficient and add a ton of amendments to any base bill.

If that's the case, someone better get past his gang of dolt advisors and tell him the democrats will take any little bit they can get and count on their judges to misinterpret it and build on it if they're ever in the majority again.

\ Whatever he has in mind, this is BS, pure and unadulterated. In fact, it sounds like something out of the mind of Ivanka who hangs with the crowd who don't give a rat's azz about the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.

JMHo

75 posted on 02/22/2018 2:59:44 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: BobL

But they’re dead and you’re alive and the gun, er, what gun?


76 posted on 02/22/2018 3:31:37 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: skimbell

“This is so because universal background checks are not enforceable without a gun registry.”

I bought two 22 rifles some years ago, and my background was checked both times with the official government form. The kind that states you will go to prison if you lie. They made a call to the FBI.

A background check is not a registry. Some stores keep the form, I heard, and some don’t.


77 posted on 02/22/2018 3:34:01 PM PST by odawg
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To: Sacajaweau
"Make a National Register and your gun is legal in every state. Which is the way it should be."

....??....

78 posted on 02/22/2018 3:37:38 PM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: TADSLOS

I already assigned post of the day but you are second-runner-up.


79 posted on 02/22/2018 3:40:51 PM PST by Lazamataz (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing 14 times in a row.)
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To: heights
It seems he agrees with any audience he attends.

That's completely false. I listened to most of the "listening session" on the radio yesterday. He said nothing most of the time, thanked a few people for speaking, and prompted everyone to speak. Then he talked about arming teachers for about five minutes. He didn't say a word about any of the ridiculous gun grabber ideas put out in the listening session.

80 posted on 02/22/2018 3:41:26 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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