Posted on 02/22/2018 1:06:43 PM PST by skimbell
"...Although there is a lack of clarity on what Trump means by “comprehensive background checks,” as to whether he is referencing an overhaul of our current system or is pushing the universal background checks lauded by Democrats, it is important to note that this represents a turning point which opens the door to a national gun registry.
This is so because universal background checks are not enforceable without a gun registry.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
“Must be some more of that 23 dimension chess or something.”
Nope, more like a classic political tactic called “Christmas tree-ing” where more baubles and tinsel are added to the tree until it falls of its own weight. In this case, appearing to give lots of sides just what they want, it falls of its own weight because one side hates what the other side is getting so much that they are willing for the entire thing to fail.
“Heading for a “one termer”.”
Let’s watch ‘immigration’. If Trump folds on that, then he’ll likely fold on gun control. So far Trump has proposed a reasonable compromise on immigration (at least in the opinion of most of us here) - all sides get something, but all sides lose something. If Trump moves Left from there...we won’t like it, one bit - as he would have folded
Assuming immigration works out (either he gets everything his way, or everything dies...which is also fine by our side), then expect the same for gun control. He’ll say nice, leftist-sounding words, but then moves back to our side when push comes to shove.
So time will tell.
“So it’d be all voluntary to register? What happens if you have a boating accident or a tornado in the mid-west?”
Probably nothing, but don’t EVER think of using your gun in self-defense, if it’s not registered. Or even showing it to anyone, including a spouse, who might just turn you in. You will get JAILED.
I’ll give you an example of BATFE’s elephantine memory.
I was headed for Germany in 1981 & took along my S&W .38 snubnose. Three years later my tour was up & I realized the Chiefs Special was nonimportable unless I could prove I had brought it from stateside.
I wrote to BATFE & asked for a letter verifying that I had bought the gun in 1973. They sent me a nice letter with the serial #, date AND time it was transferred, and which K-Mart I had bought it in. Went through customs, no problemo.
That’s ten years later.....
I agree that “universal background checks” would require a gun registry—which is a nonstarter.
But he said “comprehensive background checks.” What the heck does that mean?
It seems to me it would be much easier and much more Consitutional to just have a registry of people who aren't allowed to own guns.
An national registry of criminals and nutcases is not the same thing as a gun registry.
Whoraldo was profusely praising Trump today....ungh.
I fear that the libs have discovered an old Trump weakness and are going all out to exploit it...
“Anything fur the cheeeldruns,” even if it’s foolish.
I’m sure too, but gosh the sound of knocking knees is getting deafening again.
Don’t know what to tell you. I saw the web page and there was nothing showing.
What’s the expression about being carried by six or judged by twelve?
Yeh I don’t think so either. Nobody would do it anyway.
Who says you’ll be judged by 12, once we can’t fight back. More like ‘judged by one’ - a Leftist judge.
Criminals have no problem getting guns in CA and the average LEO on the street doesn’t know a fraction of CA gun laws.
If that's the case, someone better get past his gang of dolt advisors and tell him the democrats will take any little bit they can get and count on their judges to misinterpret it and build on it if they're ever in the majority again.
\ Whatever he has in mind, this is BS, pure and unadulterated. In fact, it sounds like something out of the mind of Ivanka who hangs with the crowd who don't give a rat's azz about the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.
JMHo
But they’re dead and you’re alive and the gun, er, what gun?
“This is so because universal background checks are not enforceable without a gun registry.”
I bought two 22 rifles some years ago, and my background was checked both times with the official government form. The kind that states you will go to prison if you lie. They made a call to the FBI.
A background check is not a registry. Some stores keep the form, I heard, and some don’t.
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I already assigned post of the day but you are second-runner-up.
That's completely false. I listened to most of the "listening session" on the radio yesterday. He said nothing most of the time, thanked a few people for speaking, and prompted everyone to speak. Then he talked about arming teachers for about five minutes. He didn't say a word about any of the ridiculous gun grabber ideas put out in the listening session.
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