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Trump Announces He Signed Memo To Ban Bump Stocks
Ali Vitali ^ | February 20, 2018 | Ali Vitali

Posted on 02/20/2018 1:08:04 PM PST by Pinkbell

New: Trump just said he signed a memo directing the Attorney General to propose a rule outlawing bump stocks, all devices "that turn legal weapons into machine guns." He expects those regulations to be finalized "very soon."

(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...


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To: The Toll

I don’t think ATF actually wants to be involved in this. They really can’t ban the things with the law as it stands, and Trump can’t just make law.

Now, ATF might ban them anyway (they’ve done similar before) but it has become clear lately that they really would rather not play in this sandbox.


61 posted on 02/20/2018 1:47:44 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s not a sign.


62 posted on 02/20/2018 1:47:54 PM PST by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: Pinkbell

This was a change in ATF regulations that after a review period, will go into effect soon.

The President is open to other approaches after listening to every one concerned.

Whatever that will be, will be in keeping with his support for the 2nd Amendment.


63 posted on 02/20/2018 1:48:03 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: Pinkbell

“Bump stocks allow semi-automatic to simulate an automatic, right?”

Yes, they do, but the rifle itself is still just a semi-automatic. So the notion that the bump stock “turns it into a fully automatic rifle” is not true. The firing mechanism which allows only one round to be expended with each pull of the trigger remains fully functional. I have not used a bump stock, but back in the late 1960’s I worked for a military vendor and had an opportunity to fire an M16. I can’t believe that with the necessity of trigger reset after every pull, that a bump stock can get anywhere near the rate of fire of the fully automatic version (i.e. the M-16)!


64 posted on 02/20/2018 1:48:13 PM PST by vette6387
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To: TexasGunLover

“...that turn legal weapons into machine guns.”

Can’t be done unless they redefine what a machine gun is.


65 posted on 02/20/2018 1:48:52 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: indthkr
Firearm Owners Protection Act.

FOPA

66 posted on 02/20/2018 1:49:26 PM PST by skimbell
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To: Eleutheria5

Read the comments on this Twitter thread. They are already saying that’s only step one:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/966054498883002369


67 posted on 02/20/2018 1:49:32 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: goldstategop
Whatever that will be, will be in keeping with his support for the 2nd Amendment.

But to forgive the pun, he just gave the anti-gunners a lot of ammunition.

68 posted on 02/20/2018 1:49:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: JamesP81

He expects those regulations to be finalized “very soon.”

ATF is the “regulator”.


69 posted on 02/20/2018 1:50:14 PM PST by The Toll
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To: JamesP81

“If this is one of Trump’s rope a dopes, fine.

If not, he lost my vote.

I will wait to see what happens.”

Lets not be hasty. Think what it would be like with a democrat in there.


70 posted on 02/20/2018 1:50:18 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: JamesP81

Rope a dope.

Good analogy.

Even though a bump stock was a non factor in last week’s shooting; this “ban” is a signal to the gun grabbers that Trump is serious in “doing something” about mass shootings.

And stuff like that.


71 posted on 02/20/2018 1:50:40 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Pinkbell; All

Trump needs to learn to keep his mouth shut and not take a position on the issue du jour.


72 posted on 02/20/2018 1:52:19 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Trump isn’t going to win ONE vote by doing this. They will still hate him, and he’s just pissed off a lot of conservatives.


73 posted on 02/20/2018 1:52:35 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: budj

and no more rubber bands.

http://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/rifles/ar-15-bumpfire-with-a-rubber-band/


74 posted on 02/20/2018 1:52:43 PM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: The Toll
ATF is the “regulator”.

Our government overlords have spoken.

75 posted on 02/20/2018 1:53:04 PM PST by corlorde
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To: indthkr

“”pre-1986 machine gun”

What happened in ‘86 that prompted this rule? “

Look up Hughes amendment.


76 posted on 02/20/2018 1:53:10 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: dfwgator

Its a change in regulation that doesn’t require congressional approval.

The President also supports stronger background checks, improved security for schools and addressing mental health issues.

All without affecting the RKBA.


77 posted on 02/20/2018 1:54:31 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: Pinkbell

The only honest and legal way is to have Congress ban bump stocks.

Does Trump know that according to federal law and the ATF acknowledges that bump stocks are legal?

Who in this federal government really understands why there is a 2nd Amendment?

Are they going to attempt to make, because someone is capable of pulling the trigger at 450 Rounds Per Minute or faster illegal, so they make trigger pulls 25 lbs or higher?

Trump, don’t be fooled by a bunch of foolish children used by the opportunistic Left, who have no wisdom or life experiences to understand history or reasoning. It’s a leftish and totalitarian ad hoc ‘Children’s Crusade’. The original child crusade didn’t end well because of idiot foolishness.


78 posted on 02/20/2018 1:54:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: wastedyears
Trump, you fool. You give an inch, they take a light year.

Some hills aren't worth dieing on.

79 posted on 02/20/2018 1:55:00 PM PST by Wissa ("Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult." - Michael Corleone)
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To: JamesP81

I don’t see it as a rope-a-dope moment. I think he’s wrong.

What I said still stands.

I’m not in the slightest interested in buying a bump stock. To me it’s a very quick way to run through ammo.

Now I can’t and shouldn’t make the choices for everyone. If someone sees value in them, let them have them. I’m all for it.

This issue had died down. Now out of the blue, he did this.

Look, I don’t have to agree with him on everything. You tell me who out there has the moxie to do all the things he’s doing, and believe in many of our causes.

Who else can combat the Leftists like his has? I don’t see a single person even 25% as good on that.

Overall, he’s still very positive when it comes to gun ownership.

There’s no way I’m tossing him overboard on a fringe issue related to one important right.

Bump stocks rank down around 15,000th on my list.


80 posted on 02/20/2018 1:56:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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