Posted on 02/14/2018 4:16:47 PM PST by EasySt
... Some supporters of E-Verify deny the program poses any threat to civil liberties, as it will only be used to verify citizenship or legal residency. They even claim a system forcing individuals to have their identities certified by the government is not a national ID system. These individuals are ignoring the history of government programs sold as only affecting a particular group or being used for a limited purpose being expanded beyond initial targets. For example, Americans were promised that only the wealthiest Americans would ever pay income taxes. And some of the PATRIOT Act’s worst provisions that we were told would only be used against terrorists are routinely used to investigate drug crimes.
E-Verify almost certainly will be used for purposes unrelated to immigration. One potential use of E-Verify is to limit the job prospects of anyone whose lifestyle displeases the government. This could include those accused of failing to pay their fair share in taxes, those who homeschool or do not vaccinate their children, or those who own firearms.
Unscrupulous government officials could use E-Verify against those who practice antiwar, anti-tax, anti-surveillance, and anti-Federal Reserve activism. Those who consider this unlikely should remember the long history of the IRS targeting the political enemies of those in power and the use of anti-terrorism laws to harass antiwar activists. They should also consider the current moves to outlaw certain types of “politically incorrect” speech, such as disputing the alleged “consensus” regarding climate change. ...
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It wasn’t this article, or Ron Paul that convinced me otherwise.
I got to thinking, how would the biblical “Mark” that we will someday not be able to buy or sell without, actually work?
I’m beginning to suspect that E-Verify is how, and it won’t stop anywhere near where most of us would want it to.
We might be better advised to concentrate on law enforcement, border control, and welfare / government handout reform.
Open border globalists absolutely LOVE your way of thinking. That thinking will help us die as a people, as a Republic and as a civilization.
Yeah, if the government controls us, they might ruin our social order and way of life by .... overrunning us with a third world population? Seriously, how can our masters wreck us faster? They have changed the demographics of this country in half a century. The free market isn’t going to solve the problem. Shut that border down, get the illegals out, then we can theorize about libertarianism. Vast swaths of this country have become sh1tho!es, and it’s been done on purpose. They have to go back, and it will be government that sends them.
Do you want to control illegal immigration or not? We already have an employer mandate to verify a person’s eligibility to work. E-Verify is just supposed to make verification simpler. I know. I had to fill out the I-9 forms & copy passport & visa documents as a payroll clerk. Identification is identification. It is ALL gov’t approved identification.
We’ll never effectively control illegal immigration until we enforce the law at the employer level, and e-Verify is necessary to accomplish that.
And we have a national ID # that’s called a Social Security #. Anyone have one of those?
“E-Verify almost certainly will be used for purposes unrelated to immigration.”
Totally true. Remember the “Patriot Act”.
Besides isn’t it the fedgov’s job to regulate immigration and the borders?
Where the hell do they get off forcing companies to do THEIR job?
Do companies get paid to “e-verify” everyone? Or is this another job they have to do for free for the fedgov?
Given the perversion of FISA, for just one recent example,
This too can be easily perverted to oppress the true citizen.
Nonsense.
You need a system to check on people’s legal status.
Just the pro-illegal alien activists are trying to whip up opposition to a sensible and necessary system.
I thought e verify would contribute to teaching/brain washing Americans to be Government informants against our neighbors like the communist. Every thing needed to locate a person using documents illegally is obtained on the w4 and i9.
I understand his perspective, but it is necessary to ensure that everyone working in America has the residency status that they need to do so.
Never mind...
I have been a skeptic of national identity cards and their equivalents for decades. However, we are facing a tenacious and malignant form of evil. If we cannot stop the illegal invasion, America will die. Even if it’s risky, E-Verify is probably worth the risk. We just have to work at putting FedGov back within its constitutional bounds once that system is created.
Anything can be abused. What we are currently doing isn’t working.
As a legal immigrant, I think it is suicidal for any country to NOT have a national identification system spelling out the legal status of every citizen and legal resident.
Today we have advanced technology available to run e-verify at a nominal cost. If a much poorer country like India can afford to print 800 MILLION voter cards, it is insane to not require even a driver’s license to vote. The foundation of any democracy depends on integrity of the voting procedures.
The only people who have reason to fear E-Verify are employers hiring illegals or illegals trying to get jobs. E-Verify should be top on list of immigration fix!
In other words. libertarians
“I got to thinking, how would the biblical “Mark” that we will someday not be able to buy or sell without, actually work?”
E-verify is a method used to enforce immigration laws. Rand Paul is trying to get some attention. You can define and reduce anything into oblivion.
You could apply Paul’s same argument as a reason to not use computers. Or not use computers because of the alleged mark of the beast.
The mark of the beast was a concept in use during the days when John wrote about it. You could not buy or sell until you when down to their “courthouse” and signed allegiance to the emperor, or offered sacrifice to him. The emperor was regarded as divine.
Yes.
Thank you!
That is what I was thinking. We already have people getting and using old/fake SSN's. Hackers will break into the E-verify system and corrupt it, for a FEE.
The best laid plans of mice and men, often go awry.
You are right.
Don’t expect any slaps on the back for it.
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