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Gun Control Bumper Sticker Part of Criminal Complaint
Ammoland ^
| 23 January, 2017
| Dean Weingarten
Posted on 01/25/2018 7:49:50 AM PST by marktwain
An auto mishap morphed into a defensive shooting in Rochester, Minnesota on Sunday, January 14th, a little after 8 a.m.
A car driven by 17 year old Muhammed Rahim, with another 17-year-old male and two teenage girls in the car, spun out of control and crashed into the side of the road in slippery conditions.
A car driven by 25 year old Alexander Weiss managed to avoid the out of control vehicle. He pulled to the side of the road to see if the people in the crashed vehicle needed assistance. Muhammed then backed up the crashed vehicle and hit Weiss' vehicle.
Weiss got out. So did Muhammed and the other male occupant. They approached Weiss and threatened him.
Weiss, a carry permit holder, retrieved a pistol and called the police. The confrontation escalated and Weiss shot Muhammed.
Two on one makes it a disparity of force situation. It is hard to know how this will play out in the courts. The statement of probable cause shows Weiss did not just draw and fire. Muhammed approached within inches of Weiss while the firearm was displayed.
Muhammed dared Weiss to fire. Weiss says that Muhammed attempted to grab his pistol. Muhammed's passenger said they never touched Weiss. The statements are not necessarily contradictory.
The police arrived on the scene and arrested Weiss. The police officer included the fact that Weiss had a bumper sticker on his vehicle that said GUN CONTROL IS HITTING YOUR TARGET in the statement of probable cause.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; bumpersticker; guncontrol; minnesota; selfdefense
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Looks like a plausible self defense case. What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it?
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:49:50 AM PST
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
No good deed goes unpunished.
To: marktwain
Nothing at all.
But just as a personal rule, I put no stickers on my car.
I am incognito.
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:52:24 AM PST
by
chris37
(Take a week off racist >;-)
To: marktwain
To the liberal, any speech they dislike is a crime.
Every liberal is a violent totalitarian thug.
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:52:36 AM PST
by
stinkerpot65
(Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
To: marktwain
What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it?
Exactly. Even if he had it custom made. If you are defending yourself you WANT to have good gun control.
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:53:10 AM PST
by
robroys woman
(So you're not confused, I'm male.)
To: marktwain
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:55:57 AM PST
by
longfellow
(Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
To: marktwain
What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it? ANYTHING you say can be used against you.
ANYTHING.
Yeah, I know: It's a bumper sticker, so it's more a "press" thing than a "speech" thing. It's still an "expression" and it was used against him by a chicken$#!+ cop.
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:55:57 AM PST
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: marktwain
Looks like a plausible self defense case. What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it? Typical cop attitude - "we can kill you just for fun if we want, but you're not allowed to defend yourself."
THE POLICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:56:21 AM PST
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
To: Jack Black
In some places being pro gun is thought of as a crime. Admitting the statement in as evidence would be irrelevant and unduly prejudicial, but that will depend on the politics of the judge. It’s not just about the law anymore.
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:56:25 AM PST
by
Spok
("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
To: marktwain
Free Speech IS probable cause?
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:56:51 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Government: Another Gang that steals your money for "Protection".)
To: chris37
If I put a bumper sticker on my car during election time it’s on a piece of magnetic backing.
When I anywhere I have to park it a while I pull it off and put it inside the trunk.
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:57:12 AM PST
by
PeteB570
( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
To: marktwain
"What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it? "
Police and prosecutors will use any little thing to make their case against self defense these days. The only way to beat them is to S.S.S., if possible.
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posted on
01/25/2018 7:59:51 AM PST
by
LIConFem
(I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
To: from occupied ga
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posted on
01/25/2018 8:00:19 AM PST
by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: marktwain
For a second I thought that a picture of the singer Prince.
To: marktwain
I’m not buying this whole story
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posted on
01/25/2018 8:03:11 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
To: marktwain
The police officer included the fact that Weiss had a bumper sticker on his vehicle that said GUN CONTROL IS HITTING YOUR TARGET in the statement of probable cause. The police officer should be sacked for stupidity and clutching at straws.
To: NorthMountain
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posted on
01/25/2018 8:03:23 AM PST
by
rjsimmon
(The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
To: marktwain
The arresting officer may have given the defense a very good cause for dismissal, showing his bias so blatantly in the report..................
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posted on
01/25/2018 8:03:37 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
To: marktwain
He definitely should be arrested and put away for a long time. I’m talking about the cop.
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posted on
01/25/2018 8:04:16 AM PST
by
bramps
(It's the Islam, stupid!)
To: pinkandgreenmom
Yep, so did I..................
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posted on
01/25/2018 8:04:22 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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