Gun Control Bumper Sticker Part of Criminal Complaint

Ammoland ^ | 23 January, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

An auto mishap morphed into a defensive shooting in Rochester, Minnesota on Sunday, January 14th, a little after 8 a.m. 

A car driven by 17 year old Muhammed Rahim, with another 17-year-old male and two teenage girls in the car, spun out of control and crashed into the side of the road in slippery conditions.

A car driven by 25 year old Alexander Weiss managed to avoid the out of control vehicle. He pulled to the side of the road to see if the people in the crashed vehicle needed assistance. Muhammed then backed up the crashed vehicle and hit Weiss' vehicle.

Weiss got out. So did Muhammed and the other male occupant. They approached Weiss and threatened him.

Weiss, a carry permit holder, retrieved a pistol and called the police. The confrontation escalated and Weiss shot Muhammed.

 Two on one makes it a disparity of force situation. It is hard to know how this will play out in the courts.  The statement of probable cause shows Weiss did not just “draw and fire”.  Muhammed approached within inches of Weiss while the firearm was displayed.

Muhammed dared Weiss to fire. Weiss says that Muhammed attempted to grab his pistol.  Muhammed's passenger said they never touched Weiss. The statements are not necessarily contradictory.

The police arrived on the scene and arrested Weiss. The police officer included the fact that Weiss had a bumper sticker on his vehicle that said “GUN CONTROL IS HITTING YOUR TARGET”  in the statement of probable cause.

[marktwain]

Looks like a plausible self defense case. What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it?

[Jack Black]

No good deed goes unpunished.

[chris37]

Nothing at all.

But just as a personal rule, I put no stickers on my car.

I am incognito.

[stinkerpot65]

To the liberal, any speech they dislike is a crime.

Every liberal is a violent totalitarian thug.

[robroys woman]

What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it?

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Exactly. Even if he had it custom made. If you are defending yourself you WANT to have good gun control.

[longfellow]

Nice shootin’ Tex!

[NorthMountain]

What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it?

ANYTHING you say can be used against you.

ANYTHING.

Yeah, I know: It's a bumper sticker, so it's more a "press" thing than a "speech" thing. It's still an "expression" and it was used against him by a chicken$#!+ cop.

[from occupied ga]

Looks like a plausible self defense case. What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it?

Typical cop attitude - "we can kill you just for fun if we want, but you're not allowed to defend yourself."

THE POLICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS

[Spok]

In some places being pro gun is thought of as a crime. Admitting the statement in as evidence would be irrelevant and unduly prejudicial, but that will depend on the politics of the judge. It’s not just about the law anymore.

[Uncle Miltie]

Free Speech IS probable cause?

[PeteB570]

If I put a bumper sticker on my car during election time it’s on a piece of magnetic backing.

When I anywhere I have to park it a while I pull it off and put it inside the trunk.

[LIConFem]

"What does the political pumper sticker have to do with it? "

Police and prosecutors will use any little thing to make their case against self defense these days. The only way to beat them is to S.S.S., if possible.

[NorthMountain]

Don't Talk to Police.

You Have the Right to Remain Innocent

[pinkandgreenmom]

For a second I thought that a picture of the singer Prince.

[AppyPappy]

I’m not buying this whole story

[relictele]

The police officer included the fact that Weiss had a bumper sticker on his vehicle that said “GUN CONTROL IS HITTING YOUR TARGET” in the statement of probable cause.

The police officer should be sacked for stupidity and clutching at straws.

[rjsimmon]

bfl

[Red Badger]

The arresting officer may have given the defense a very good cause for dismissal, showing his bias so blatantly in the report..................

[bramps]

He definitely should be arrested and put away for a long time. I’m talking about the cop.

[Red Badger]

Yep, so did I..................